7.1.5: Fire completely wrecked

[Deleted]

Scorch on the move is fine if the damage is only somewhat lower than fireball. If scorch's damage is on the wet noodle spectrum, well, it's a crap and unrewarding spell.

[Heeka]

I swapped to fire with the launch of legion, and have been struggling to get good dps despite tons of research. Is it even worth posting logs to the "help my dps" thread at this point, or should I just bail and swap back to arcane?

[Fenzha]

05/01 PTR change

Item - Mage T19 Fire 2P Bonus: Enhanced Pyrotechnics provides an additional 20% critical strike chance from each application.

Was 10%

[Nico3337]

05/01 PTR change

Item - Mage T19 Fire 2P Bonus: Enhanced Pyrotechnics provides an additional 20% critical strike chance from each application.

Was 10%

Well, crits only matter when you have 2 in a row so it's still pretty bad..

[Deleted]

Well, crits only matter when you have 2 in a row so it's still pretty bad..

Guess what, theres a thing called fire blast. This will make it so that at 60% crit your 2nd fireball almost always crits (90%).
Its very good for reliant proc rates and sustained damage.

[Deleted]

Does anyone know if sephuz can proc with counterspell on bosses in the ptr, even if u dont interrupt smth? DKs can cast death grip on bosses to get the proc for example.

I know this isnt the right place to ask, but iv searched and couldnt find anything. If someone knows please share the info

[Deleted]

Just tested it on ptr.
On class order hall boss dummy, dragon's breath, frostnova, Counterspelkl wont trigger sephuz on it.
Guess it shouldnt trigger with deathgrip either, or it needs to be with DB and frostnova, but that would result in all mages being in Melee range.

[stomination]

Meteor is an instant spell, and if anything kindling is hurt more by you having to move during fireball casts.

Yea I know meteor is an instant spell but that's just that spell. In general we don't just sit there a whole boss fight and never move and movement affects other parts of the rotation.

[Deleted]

Just tested it on ptr.
On class order hall boss dummy, dragon's breath, frostnova, Counterspelkl wont trigger sephuz on it.
Guess it shouldnt trigger with deathgrip either, or it needs to be with DB and frostnova, but that would result in all mages being in Melee range.

Thanks a lot mate.

[Torian kel]

4 days till 7.1.5, still no news about a fix to the flamepatch abuse, come on

[bowchikabow]

.... What is blizzard doing with mages? I... I...

Trying to look for a method in the madness. But all I see is the madness.

[Deleted]

Well, R.I.P. Ice Floes. I already got every crappy legendary except for Sephus, so let's hope I get the belt next so Scorch doesn't suck as much.

[genzic8787]

From my 'tests' on ptr (if you can call a few 5 min dummy fights a test) meteor, mirror image and flame on resulted in the highest dps.

I was using helm and belt (though I wasn't in execute range). Which brings me to the next inquiry: How should we use belt in execute?

What I'm doing is trying not to cast 2 scorches in a sequence. I'll elaborate: I cast one scorch and during that scorch I blast and pyro right after it. If the pyro crits, I scorch again and pyro right after it. If it doesn't crit, I scorch and blast and pyro right after that. Thus, never needing to cast more than one scorch before I pyro.

id love to see this proof in action. right now i have done some test dummy stuff and rop is still op.. theres no way to see the dmg mirror brings from recount how can u tell whats better?? id love to remove rop from my tool bar and never look back...

[Deleted]

id love to see this proof in action. right now i have done some test dummy stuff and rop is still op.. theres no way to see the dmg mirror brings from recount how can u tell whats better?? id love to remove rop from my tool bar and never look back...

Skada works just fine. Remove recount, download skada and test it yourself.

[Torian kel]

Skada works just fine. Remove recount, download skada and test it yourself.

Replace skada with details and have even more information

[Kanariya]

Well here come three days of Flamestrike on ST before they hotfix nerf Flame Patch into uselessness again.

Replace skada with details and have even more information

Seconded. Details is seriously an amazing meter that blows Skada out of the water.

[Deleted]

Replace skada with details and have even more information

Oh, thanks for the tip! I'll check it out.

[Deleted]

Well here come three days of Flamestrike on ST before they hotfix nerf Flame Patch into uselessness again.



Seconded. Details is seriously an amazing meter that blows Skada out of the water.

I bet you 1g bliz nerf flamestrikebinto the ground and no other changes to compensate.

[Deleted]

I bet you 1g bliz nerf flamestrikebinto the ground and no other changes to compensate.

They will probably just revert it. Like they did in the past.

[waat]

they should just nerf flamestrike a tad and buff pyroblast a tad