Trump will ask Congress, not Mexico, to pay for border wall

[alexw]

Sure it is. In theory, if free trade were happening, and they were just winning, then it would not be stolen money. When their government limits how much we can trade there, but ours does not do the same, we are being stolen from, in nearly literal terms. When they tariff our goods, and we do not tariff theirs, we are being stolen form.

Nobody of any level of intellect ever thought Mexico was going to sign us a big check, with a grand ceremony. The assumption has always been that the wall will be deficit neutral, due to a myriad of other economic changes, and the policies that bring them about.

Oh Jesus.... you think trade is about winners and losers? And that it results in money being stolen?

Tell me, what do you think happens to these dollars that flow into Mexico? How do you think they are used in economic terms? Where do they flow?

[Belize]

Just make a mental note to come back and chat with me again when construction of the wall begins.

Till then ...MAGA!

Haha, I can't wait until you guys go on a victory tour when a 1 meter section of a teeny tiny fence is done and Trump goes "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED FELLERS."

[tyrlaan]

Sources: Trump will ask Congress, not Mexico, to pay for border wall

President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has signaled to congressional Republican leaders that the President-elect's preference is to fund the border wall through the appropriations process as soon as April, according to House Republican officials.

Well another promise down.

This is a surprise to... anyone?

That's one of the worst things about Donald Trump really. He's a guy who frankly, is garbage with finances and knows next to nothing about it at the level we're talking, and also the guy who has to sign budgets that will put this country on the road to fiscal health over the next 15 years so we can actually DO all these things which must be priorities.

If Donald Trump had arrived in the year 2000, this would be less of a big deal. We'd be talking about 2030 and retiring of the baby boomers as if it was some distant problem. Instead, both events are closer to today, than Bush v Gore.

So damn true. So damn true.

[Deathpath]

And at the expense of the U.S' reputation on all future foreign trading deals.

Honestly i can see it as a benefit, better to be hard nosed than limp wristed.

[Deleted]

Don't tunnels go under walls ? or am I missing somthing ?

[Belize]

Honestly i can see it as a benefit, better to be hard nosed than limp wristed.

Considering the U.S. is currently not being 'limp wristed', I don't understand why suddenly making other countries hate us/reducing future negotiating power is really a good idea.

[alexw]

The US is in a position to severely damage the mexican economy if they do not comply with any sorts of payments, in fact by restricting remittances alone it will be enough to pay for the wall. In 2015 24.8 billion dollars was sent to mexico via mexican workers out of the country. Tariffs on mexican goods will hurt them more than the US and along with sanctions it would be cheaper for them to pay us for the wall than for the trump to impose any of that.

They can pay and continue the decent trading with the US along with collecting the benefits from remittances, or they can refuse and tank their economy. Either way the wall is being built at the expense of mexico.

*facepalm*

You have absolutely no clue do you?

Trying to bully another nation like that will force up the cost of ALL US imports, as the rest of the world will see it as a sign of increased risk of engaging in trade with us. So if you think we should all pay more for everything then go ahead be my guest.

[Belize]

Don't tunnels go under walls ? or am I missing somthing ?

Oh yes. AND boats go around them, ANNNNDDDDDD planes go OVER them.

But let's not ask anyone supporting the whole wall idea to perform any sort of intelligent thinking. The brain-ache it'd give them is more than likely classified under cruel and unusual punishment.

[Deathpath]

Don't tunnels go under walls ? or am I missing somthing ?

Truly the great thing about living in the 21st century is we have all kinds of technology such as ground radar and other such similar tech. And the need to overcome new challenges always inspires innovation, and along with innovations comes progress.

[Crissi]

The thing about being willing to ruin the mexican economy over the wall is this: It will also greatly harm the economies of AMerican border towns. Which harms the states economy too.

So really, ya'll will just end up harming Americans in the process

[God Save The King]

The final attempt to block him from being President ended today when Congress certified Trump's EC victory.

A few protesters, a few rabid Democrat Congressmen, and even Pugs Biden himself tried to have one last go at blocking the certification but as you can expect it amounted to nothing but a temper tantrum.

The irony of Pugs Biden being there is sweetened by the fact that only one day earlier he did an interview with PBS in which he told Trump to "grow up".

Heh, ya, grow up.

Coming from the side that rioted when Trump won, launched into recount efforts based on conspiracy theories and no evidence, tried to intimidate electors into hijacking the Presidency for Clinton, and mustered one last ditch effort to block Congressional certification - all while being the very same side that went into a state of level 10 finger-of-shame wagging over Trump's joking statement that he might not accept the results.

Ha, grow up indeed.

Heart attack, assassination attempt, slip and fall, sudden death, etc.

That's why I included the "likely" tag. I'm quite confident that Trump will be sworn in and be President for four years. But to state, without question, that those two things are certain ignores the chance and anarchy of life.

At the end of the day it was more or less semantic humour.

[alexw]

Honestly i can see it as a benefit, better to be hard nosed than limp wristed.

You see it as a benefit to force up the cost of everything the US buys from other nations? How does that work?

[Draco-Onis]

Truly the great thing about living in the 21st century is we have all kinds of technology such as ground radar and other such similar tech. And the need to overcome new challenges always inspires innovation, and along with innovations comes progress.

and those things COST MORE MONEY!!!!

[TrumpIsPresident]

Haha, I can't wait until you guys go on a victory tour when a 1 meter section of a teeny tiny fence is done and Trump goes "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED FELLERS."

We're going to have a party for every fucking inch!

And you're invited Belize.

Beers are on me.

MAGA!

[lazypeon100]

I'm confused by the argument people are making suggesting the wall will save us money in the long run by keeping illegal immigrants out. This all hinges on the idea that the wall alone will keep them out, which it realistically won't.

To my understanding, a lot of illegal immigrants come over legally and essentially never leave without becoming actual citizens. If that is the case, a wall would do almost nothing to that while costing us billions (trillions?) of dollars.

If that is not the case, this still clearly over looks otherwise to get past the border such as boats, air travel, etc.

A better way to stop illegal immigrants would be to punish companies caught hiring these people just to save a bit of their own money.

The wall idea is essentially us throwing money into a black hole. We won't be seeing that money back in any meaningful way.

[Moshots]

Why don't we put the illegals to work...

Find 2000-10000 illegals who are also tradesmen and offer them their greencard in return for the labor. They work for the US goverment to build the wall for 1 year at Minimum wage and they get citizenship.. Those are the kind of people who are hard workers and deserve to stay in the country. So why not kill 2 birds with one stone. Get cheap labor and help keep hard workers in america

I worked construction for 3 years and people act like its a stereotype but its pretty true.... Mexicans make amazing bricklayers and alot of the ones who do work in the field are illegal.. We had one job where the owners best buddy was a cop. We all knew that but the Bricklayers who barely spoke english didn't... one day he showed up to check on the progress of the job and He was on duty at the time. So there are 2 cops walk into the building. we chat with him for a bit shoot the shit guy was cool we even went drinking with him and the boss a few times... 5 minutes later he leaves we get back to work my uncle who was the head contractor goes to me where are the bricklayers? they were there 5 minutes ago cause we were talking to them about moving stuff out of our way so we could do the woodwork around the windows.... TLDR the second the cops showed up they "dissapeared" for about 45 minutes.... We just laughed cause we knew why but they were damn good at their job and Worked their asses off.

[Zan15]

Just make a mental note to come back and chat with me again when construction of the wall begins.

Till then ...MAGA!

will make it even more pathetic of a discussion when they are building the wall with our own money and mexico laughs because it won't stop illegals from entering the country.


guess there are no more hungry, homeless, cold, sick, mentally suffering vets to help.


keep moving the needle. con con con con

[Noradin]

I'm MAGA now.

Are you sure it's "MAGA"?
Shouldn't there be a second "G" in there instead of the "M"?

[Tinykong]

Tariffs are not just on imports, they can be slapped on exports too.

Whats our largest export to Mexico?

American dollars.

In the middle of last year Trump explained one of the ways in which Mexico would pay for the wall.

He suggested that the river of US money flowing into Mexico should be taxed and I think it should be as well.

See this does two things.

One it generates revenue but it wont even need to for long, if ever.

Because Mexico is such a disaster of a failure of a nation, they wouldn't make it through the season without our money.

They would beg us to take the one-time payment thus funding the wall.

So you're going to tax Western Union, which means they will raise rates. Mexico still isn't paying for the wall.

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Zombergy?..Well that explains that. Thanks.

I'll bet he thought he was hidden by the name change, but a simple post search shows otherwise.

[cubby]

It's truly adorable that anyone thinks this wall is going to be constructed. Really. Truly. Trump has lied about every single thing he's promised so far, and has now backpedaled out of his biggest promise to date. And he hasn't even taken the reigns yet (yes, spelled incorrectly on purpose - doubleplusgood!). He'll either be impeached within the first two years, or he'll be the first three term president since FDR.