Ah, my mistake. From your oddly celebratory troll post, I assumed that you weren't very attached to the class as a whole.
It will be interesting to see with the set bonuses if Envenom passes Rupture on damage contribution at some point. Envenom relics may even become competitive.
the nerf is so big that now we are in a situation where every relic is worse than the previous (without counting the energy regen btw)
but with a nerf to 9/8/7 the situation of "exponential" growth remained.
unlucky situation T_T
btw the amout of overstimation about lining up CDs is ridiculous
So no answer from blizzard about this? not even a mention about a major change to the class?
For now, have to try sim what relics to use, as it look the 3rd relic (4 sec) need to be replaced but I guess its time to change al 3. With MP being the way to go is MA (master alcemist) for extra Ag dmg a way to go possibly?
We'll definitely need some work done to sim this out then. I imagine they are still quite valuable, but definitely less so, especially the third relic being only 4 seconds. I imagine based on my incredible napkin math that we may want to use two relics and a rupture/master alchemist relic to maximize uptime with the boots, but I have no actual math/sims to validate that claim.
oh god... will wait tomorrow for patch being live in EU to see if 3MA without boots (unlucky... got insigna sephuz & valeera) will be a bad news, else gonna have to pray for getting some relics drop this week :@
Servers are up. Can confirm the change is live.
Ankleshanker, 110 Rogue, Aerie Peak US
We're a band of vicious pirates,
we depend on RNG.
If I only get one buff,
then bury me at sea
What if you have the 3 MA relics and the Boots? it still works?
Still, I suppose you can wait 24 more seconds to line up the second one with Vanish. But instead of nerfing the Boots, which for example I do not have (and I have 4 legendaries) they nerfed the relic. And let's say I am ok with the nerf, they DID NOT SAID ANYTHING FOR THE WHOLE FKING TIME. I tossed or passed over a ton of 870+ rupture dmg relics and they sneak on the patch day..without even documenting it?
It's not about the nerf, it's about not saying anything. It's not such a minor nerf when you fuck up 2 or 3 relics. But I know the solution. We just need 3x unsubscribed relics now.
waiting 24 seconds to line up are u srs?
NEW:
0:00 -> vendetta+vanish
1:30 -> vendetta
2:00 -> vanish
3:00 ->vendetta
4:00 -> vanish
4:30 -> vendetta
6:00 -> vendetta+vanish
OLD:
0:00 vendetta+vanish
1:00 vendetta
2:00 vendetta+vanish
3:00 vendetta
4:00 vendetta+vanish
5:00 vendetta
6:00 vendetta+vanish
For Agonizing builds -
Lining up Vendetta with Vanish isn't really a big deal since Rupture was normalized and DS was nerfed. Since Kingsbane works with Vendetta now, and MP is competitive, you want your Vendetta to either stay 1:30 (no relics/boots/elisande trinket), or you want to try and get it down to 45. I don't think there's a middle ground. Gul'dan's trinket "Draught of Souls" was reduced to a 1:20 cooldown now as well (from 2 minutes), which is even more reason to try and line it up this way.
Envenom/Rupture relics should be pretty interchangeable with tier, with Envenom being slightly better if you have enough mastery.
Last edited by Pinch; 2017-01-10 at 06:10 PM.
at least with boots now 3MA-2MA-1MA sims appear to be roughly the same