"Dark and difficult near future", US National Intelligence Council predicts

[Deleted]

Merkel letting in millions of refugees is a bit worse.

In which way? Our economy works like a charm. We integrate those people. Yes, we need to be more aware about security. But thats all.

Currently, the economical outcome from the refugee situation is a clear win-win.

[Daelak]

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-in...true&r=US&IR=T
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/global...r-nic-chairman



It's obvious why Russia is trying to manipulate public opinion in Western countries, but why is Trump covering that up and even aiding Russia?

Because that's what US conservatism is based upon, authoritarianism and strict adherence to a caste-based society where insubordination is not tolerated. They want the US to be lead and to become what Russia is.

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I see the chance of some cooperation between Russia and the USA as a positive thing. With Hillary vowing to continue Obama's petulant stance towards Russia it would have just been another 8 years of pointless tit for tat global squabbling.

Russia doesn't want cooperation, it wants chaos to be able to expand their own police state, while the western liberal democracies are infighting insurgent white supremacist political movements.

[Deleted]

Oh, you're not the left?

Surprised?

Think about your prejudices.

It's your claim of backroom deals of Putin paying off Trump's debt with literally zero reality behind it except what's in your deluded mind that you go around and try to pass off as fact. The Denver Guardian is looking for a new editor I heard. You'd be perfect.

Thanks you didnt say "Sputnik" or "RT". I am not really able to create propaganda, you know?

Also, you have a source that says Putin actually influenced the election? What's that? No? Not surprised.

Yes, those secret service investigation results currently everyone talks about. But i am sure you will link some breitbart source with states the opposite.

[Daelak]

Merkel letting in millions of refugees is a bit worse.

I love hearing what the conservative nativist-braintrust would do when millions of refugees from war torn countries comes to their doorstep.

[PC2]

In which way? Our economy works like a charm. We integrate those people. Yes, we need to be more aware about security. But thats all.

Currently, the economical outcome from the refugee situation is a clear win-win.

The difference is that I'm not preaching economic doom for Germany in the near future. My criticism is more qualitative than quantitative. I don't like the culture you are receiving. Also if I were Merkel I would only want high skill migrants, I wouldn't accept anybody who walks in.

[Daelak]

The main difference is that I'm not preaching economic doom for Germany in the near future. My criticism is of the culture you are receiving. Also if I were Merkel I would only want high skill migrants, I wouldn't accept anybody who walks in.

Culture? What culture is that? Armchair immigration experts are void of actual real world applications to millions of people leaving a warzone.

[Deleted]

The difference is that I'm not preaching economic doom for Germany in the near future. My criticism is more qualitative than quantitative. I don't like the culture you are receiving. Also if I were Merkel I would only want high skill migrants, I wouldn't accept anybody who walks in.

Well, i am always happy if our culture gets more diversified. And adding new culture just will make our life more colorful, even if integration takes a lot of time, up to one generation.

I agree that highly skilled immigrants are nice, but in this case its also about helping those that flee from war and death. And beside the fact our economy is stronger than ever before we were able to help those. Which is another clear benefit some of the right wingers would not see.. even if they claim to be christians. Which means to help people.

[PC2]

Culture? What culture is that? Armchair immigration experts are void of actual real world applications to millions of people leaving a warzone.

MENA culture. Islam. I'm not a fan. Also I would heavily regulate all migrants to make sure they are going to assimilate and want to contribute to the host country.

[Blade Wolf]

It doesn't seem possible to do large scale business with Russia without cooperating with the country's corruption, since Russia is 1 of the most corrupt countries in the world. So thats certainly plausable.



Or he knows he's being manipulated but loves that game. I know to many people who see that as a way of life. (Narcissists are known for their manipulation-"addiction")

I don't think Trump will withdrawl from global politics. On the contrary, he might be bolstering Russia to make it stronger so together the US and Russia can try to prefent China from expanding in Asia. Aiding Russia will come at a cost for the rest of the world, which he cares little about.

Trumps ass is pretty much owned by China through debts so i doubt we'll see him go against them.

[Daelak]

MENA culture. Islam. I'm not a fan. Also I would heavily regulate all migrants to make sure they are going to assimilate and want to contribute to the host country.

And how much do you think that would cost? Better break out your checkbook, since the government should operate that way.

Papist culture. Catholicism. I'm not a fan. Also I would heavily regulate all migrants to make sure they are going to assimilate and want to contribute to the host country.

You ideology has never had any new ideas or arguments, it is just a veil for white supremacy and dominion since the Deep Southern slave lords landed in Charleston.

[0ptimo]

Surprised?

Think about your prejudices.



Thanks you didnt say "Sputnik" or "RT". I am not really able to create propaganda, you know?



Yes, those secret service investigation results currently everyone talks about. But i am sure you will link some breitbart source with states the opposite.

Those results that say he wound up influencing the election? I'll wait for your source. Thanks.

You're doing a great job creating propaganda on this forum.

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I'll wait for your source. Thanks.

I told you about my source. The directors of the american CIA, NSA and FBI.

You just have to accept it as source.

[0ptimo]

I told you about my source. The directors of the american CIA, NSA and FBI.

You just have to accept it as source.

It's a source. It just doesn't claim what you are saying it does. I'll wait for you to link the section that says Russia actually influenced our election.

[Ravenblade]

Trump's KGB handle isn't CCCP without reason (Chaotic Crazy Cheeto & President), who knows why that's the case but he's going to run the US like the average Russian mafia boss runs his underlings. His swamp is going to be as dry as the crocodiles' scales living in it.

[Narwal]

Everytime a politician speaks publicly, it's to manipulate public opinion.

Politics is not a science, it doesn't have a burden of proof, it doesn't have empirical evidence. I am not, by the way, speaking specifically about the DNC hack and the influence that had in the week before the election, or that the same hackers also hacked the RNC but released nothing publicly.

That Putin has taken such an interest publicly in Trump's victory is more proof than is needed to establish he has a vested interest in Trump's victory. That they are trading blowjobs in the oval office right now shows the intimacy of their new relationship.

Of course he had a vested interest, payback for Hillary meddling in Russias elections.

[Daelak]

Of course he had a vested interest, payback for Hillary meddling in Russias elections.

I like how you actually side with an autocrat of a police state instead of a liberal democracy (that's the US in case you were confused) attempting to help the citizens of said police state from suppressing their rights.

[Elim Garak]

I like how you actually side with an autocrat of a police state instead of a liberal democracy (that's the US in case you were confused) attempting to help the citizens of said police state from suppressing their rights.

Did the citizens of said police state ax u 2 halp? No? Yankee go home.

[Theodarzna]

Culture? What culture is that? Armchair immigration experts are void of actual real world applications to millions of people leaving a warzone.

Leaving a warzone? Once there were out of danger they were no longer in a warzone? Why did they need to flee Turkey for example? Or Morocco?

[Slant]

The difference is that I'm not preaching economic doom for Germany in the near future. My criticism is more qualitative than quantitative. I don't like the culture you are receiving. Also if I were Merkel I would only want high skill migrants, I wouldn't accept anybody who walks in.

I chuckled IRL. What would you know about German culture? That's right. Nothing. Not the first thing. Why are you worried about their "culture" coming to us? You don't know the first thing about their culture, either. Oh, that's right. You read about it in some newspaper...

[Daelak]

Leaving a warzone? Once there were out of danger they were no longer in a warzone? Why did they need to flee Turkey for example? Or Morocco?

There are millions of migrants in Turkey currently, and thousands in Morocco. You can't just handwave away millions of refugees, oh wait you can, because you actually don't give a shit, you just want to wax poetic about how you would handle it sooo much better.