[7.3] Azortharion's Hunter Guides

[Azortharion]

If only someone out there was writing a guide where a lot of the undocumented changes could also be found on the very first page.

[Ninjeff]

If only someone out there was writing a guide where a lot of the undocumented changes could also be found on the very first page.

If only. Looks like they were just freshly updated today too!

[jaimelannister]

I thought they were re-balancing the secondary stats in this patch, but I don't see anything in the patch notes for Hunter. Can I assume that means our stat weights haven't changed? Thanks!

[Deleted]

If only someone out there was writing a guide where a lot of the undocumented changes could also be found on the very first page.

Eh... I usally have google as my starting site, not your guide, and last time I looked at it had outdated info on it and didn't include any of the last minute changes, so I was immediatly not paying attention to it. If you fixxed it - then that's cool though.

[SadisticChipmunk]

Hey Azor, question...

In your stat priority you have:
Haste until ~9%;
Mastery;
Agility;
Critical Strike;
Haste above 9%;
Versatility.

But in the pawn string you have
( Pawn: v1: "Azor-Marksmanship": CritRating=11.90, Agility=10.85, HasteRating=10.77, MasteryRating=13.45, Versatility=9.17, Dps=33.35, RangedDps=33.35 )... So which would it be, Is agility above crit or below it? Thanks in advance.

[PewPewArrowz]

I haven't seen it said here, is the trinket list on Azor's guide updated?

[Kwaai]

Why is the breakpoint 9% haste? With 0 haste the rotation looks like:

Time - Focus
0 - 100 (MS cast)
1.5 - 115 (GCD ends, Aimed starts)
3.5 - 80 (Aimed 1 finishes)
5.5 - 50 (Aimed 2 finishes)
7.5 - 20 (Aimed 3 finishes)

We never run into focus issues, so it seems to me that we only need to squeeze a 7.5 second sequence into 7 seconds, which takes 7.15% haste, not 9%. Where does 9% come from?

Of course, latency makes it harder either way, though.

[HappyLuckBox]

Its literally impossible to spam arcane shot and then stop when a proc comes up so that you don't accidently use the proc. Any help/tips with this?

[Bepples]

Bestial Wrath increases all damage you do, so of course it does. Also, you should notice that Crows lasts for 15 secs and BW for 10, so to not waste a global during BW (that could be used for Cobra Shot/Kill Command) you should cast Crows first then pop BW, as Crows will benefit from the full duration of BW.

BW lasts for 15 seconds.

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Question:
Does Bestial Wrath increase the dmg of A Murder of Crows?
if yes, then should I always cast BW before AMoC ?

MoC does not snapshot.

[Maxie]

Why is the breakpoint 9% haste? With 0 haste the rotation looks like:

Time - Focus
0 - 100 (MS cast)
1.5 - 115 (GCD ends, Aimed starts)
3.5 - 80 (Aimed 1 finishes)
5.5 - 50 (Aimed 2 finishes)
7.5 - 20 (Aimed 3 finishes)

We never run into focus issues, so it seems to me that we only need to squeeze a 7.5 second sequence into 7 seconds, which takes 7.15% haste, not 9%. Where does 9% come from?

Of course, latency makes it harder either way, though.

Yeah it's just a margin for latency etc.

[Azortharion]

It's a latency margin, trying to achieve 0.1s - 0.2s leeway so that even Australians can play along.

[druxx]

It's a latency margin, trying to achieve 0.1s - 0.2s leeway so that even Australians can play along.

Not sure if I'm supposed to be happy, or sad, about the Australian part.

Hehe

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It's a latency margin, trying to achieve 0.1s - 0.2s leeway so that even Australians can play along.

Sticking to MM I imagine? Or are you still undecided at this point. (Like me)

[Kwaai]

It's a latency margin, trying to achieve 0.1s - 0.2s leeway so that even Australians can play along.

I see, thanks for clearing that up.

[satimy]

everytime i put simcraft in ptr mode it crashes

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also 3 trueshot relics only reduces the cd by 52 seconds? Has it always been like this?

[sluggs]

everytime i put simcraft in ptr mode it crashes

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also 3 trueshot relics only reduces the cd by 52 seconds? Has it always been like this?

If you have 3 points in Quick shot then the first trueshot relic will reduce cd by 8 seconds and second and third relic will reduce it by 7 seconds each to make it 52 seconds

undocumented change in 7.1.5

[Ahraa]

In heavy AoE situations when trueshot is active (m+ for example), is it worth ignoring AiS and just Multi -> Marked -> Multi -> Marked and so on..?

[BigWok]

The patch note says the vulnerable window lasts 7 seconds, but I only see 6 seconds on live. Am I missing something?

[satimy]

If you have 3 points in Quick shot then the first trueshot relic will reduce cd by 8 seconds and second and third relic will reduce it by 7 seconds each to make it 52 seconds

undocumented change in 7.1.5

what a bunch of cunts

[Huntmesillier]

In the Icy Veins guide it says while under Trueshot you can fit 4 aimed shots in back to back, but for the life of me I can only get three. Am I missing something?

[Mavick]

BW lasts for 15 seconds.

Strange, could have sworn it said 10 sec earlier when I typed that, but possibly misread the tooltip (or they lul stealth changed something again). Either way, doesn't change what I said to the main point of the question.

Edit: Actually I'm pretty sure they did indeed just hotfix that in today. Wowhead still has tooltip at 10 sec duration.