Experts worried after Hundreds of neo-Nazis have 'gone underground' in Germany

[Tennis]

LONDON — There were 600 arrest warrants for neo-Nazis outstanding in Germany last month, Deutsche Welle reports.

Some 454 arrest warrants for were issued in 2016 alone for people who "have been deemed on account of relevant police information to belong to the category 'crime motivated by the political right.'" Ninety-two of them are being sought for politically motivated crimes.

Those people have "gone underground" which, according to Matthias Quent, a researcher into right-wing extremism who spoke to DW, increases the risk of creating new right-wing extremist terrorist structures.

"The discourse is incredibly uninhibited," he told DW. "If the perception is that the state is no longer capable of protecting its borders, or its people, from terrorism, there is an increase in the perceived legitimacy of forming one's own organisations, of resorting to violence oneself, of arming oneself."
German government: Far-right extremists have grown 8%

After years of decline, the number of people who are thought to be far-right extremists in Germany grew nearly 8% from 21,000 in 2014 to 22,600 in 2015, according to Interior Ministry data released in June last year.

In its annual report, the Interior Ministry added that the "intensity of right-wing extremist militancy" was observed in spring 2015 — and it has only got more pronounced since then, with in resurgence of threats against journalists and politicians.

This date coincides with the start of a mass arrival of asylum seekers in Germany. Attacks against refugee centres have grown and in October 2015, Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker — a supporter of Chancellor Angela Merkel's "welcome-policy" toward refugees — was stabbed in the neck by an anti-immigration protester.

A man takes part in a demonstration in the east German city of Bautzen, Sunday, Sept. 18, 2016 after clashes between far-right protesters and migrants this week. Slogan reads 'natural hardness - born in the east (of Germany)'. A man takes part in a demonstration in the east German city of Bautzen, Sunday, Sept. 18, 2016 after clashes between far-right protesters and migrants this week. Slogan reads 'natural hardness - born in the east (of Germany)'. AP Photo/Jens Meyer

During his trial, it emerged that the attacker, known as Frank S, had previously been active in far-right movements in Germany, and participated in a demonstration in honour of Adolf Hitler's Deputy Führer, Rudolf Hess.
'Exorbitant increase in right-wing violence'

The Interior Ministry report mentions an "exorbitant increase in right-wing extremist violence," and highlights that the high number of refugees coming into the country encouraged a now wide-spread connectivity between right-wing extremists.

The increase is a Europe-wide phenomenon — and the movement is not just an underground one. Everywhere in the EU, far-right parties have seen a huge resurgence in support bringing it to levels not seen sine World War Two.

In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders — head of the Party for Freedom — was just convicted by a Dutch court for hate speech. He is expected to come very close to power in the next elections in March.

In France, Marine Le Pen, head of the far-right Front National, is set to easily make it to the second round of the French presidential elections in May. And in Germany the anti-immigrant party, Alternative für Deutschland, has made huge strides in the last regional elections and is currently polling at around 15 percent.

http://www.businessinsider.com/hundr...germany-2017-1

Doesn't look good but I sure hope that the authorities are able to get a handle on this situation. One possible step for the time being should be increased security at high risk targets.

[I Push Buttons]

Meanwhile another group that shall remain nameless is already underground and regularly commits mass killings in the EU.

Can't talk about them though. Its racist to do so.

[Tennis]

Meanwhile another group that shall remain nameless is already underground and regularly commits mass killings in the EU.

Can't talk about them though. Its racist to do so.

I don't follow. This is a top news story today so why can't we discuss it?

[Deleted]

Meanwhile another group that shall remain nameless is already underground and regularly commits mass killings in the EU.

Can't talk about them though. Its racist to do so.

Pretty much this to be honest. If you read the article it says that when people feel their government is unable to protect them, they're more likely to be right wing radicals. And the truth is that European governments can't really protect their citizens due to the Wilkommenskultur that took place in Germany. Once the terrorists are in Europe, they can travel from one side of the continent to the other in hours, completely unhindered.

That's the problem with the Freedom of Movement - It's brilliant on the face of it but in reality it just doesn't hold up. Yet anyone who says this is apparently a racist lunatic. And why I personally voted to leave the EU in our referendum here in the UK.

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I don't follow. This is a top news story today so why can't we discuss it?

He's talking about Islamic terrorists travelling to Europe with refugees from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Eritrea, etc.

[Rennadrel]

Meanwhile another group that shall remain nameless is already underground and regularly commits mass killings in the EU.

Can't talk about them though. Its racist to do so.

I approve of this ownage post. Get rekt OP, beta

[primalmatter]

It is almost like kicking in people's door and arresting them for wrong think has consequences.

Congratulations Germany rather then engaging your population and trying to compromise you are pushing them into hiding. All they have done is made them stronger with their actions. At the rate its going the tables will be turned sooner then later.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

It only took one post to turn this into an anti-muslim thread. Good work people. Let's leave those heroic neo-nazis alone and instead attack the refugees.

[Deleted]

It only took one post to turn this into an anti-muslim thread. Good work people. Let's leave those heroic neo-nazis alone and instead attack the refugees.

Just today I heard on the radio while driving to work that there's more people applying for self defense courses, obtaining weapon permissions, buying defensive tools like pepper sprays and so on than ever in German history. I might know the reasons for that, do you?

[I Push Buttons]

It only took one post to turn this into an anti-muslim thread. Good work people. Let's leave those heroic neo-nazis alone and instead attack the refugees.

Did I mention refugees?

Did I defend neo-nazis?

In fact I did neither of those things.

[Tennis]

Just today I heard on the radio while driving to work that there's more people applying for self defense courses, obtaining weapon permissions, buying defensive tools like pepper sprays and so on than ever in German history. I might know the reasons for that, do you?

A rise in hate crimes has no doubt driven many minorities to take self defense courses. It's the same thing here.

[primalmatter]

It only took one post to turn this into an anti-muslim thread. Good work people. Let's leave those heroic neo-nazis alone and instead attack the refugees.

Thise who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

The german government only loses when it forces its political enemies into hiding.

[munkeyinorbit]

I don't follow. This is a top news story today so why can't we discuss it?

I push buttons is just being racist. He thinks because he doesn't say the words that it is OK but the intent is there.

[Mormolyce]

Meanwhile another group that shall remain nameless is already underground and regularly commits mass killings in the EU.

Can't talk about them though. Its racist to do so.

If by "mass killings" you mean not paying for train tickets.

A report released by the German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation in November 2015 found that over the period January–September 2015, the crime rate of refugees was the same as that of native Germans.[58] According to Deutsche Welle, the report "concluded that the majority of crimes committed by refugees (67 percent) consisted of theft, robbery and fraud. Sex crimes made for less than 1 percent of all crimes committed by refugees, while homicide registered the smallest fraction at 0,1 percent."[58] According to the conservative newspaper Die Welt's description of the report, the most common crime committed by refugees was not paying fares on public transportation.[59] According to Deutsche Welle's reporting in February 2016 of a report by the German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation, the number of crimes committed by refugees did not rise in proportion to the number of refugees between 2014-2015.[60] According to Deutsche Welle, "between 2014 and 2015, the number of crimes committed by refugees increased by 79 percent. Over the same period, however, the number of refugees in Germany increased by 440 percent."

In May 2016, Politifact deemed Donald Trump's statement that "Germany "is crime-riddled right now" because of migration to Europe" as mostly false.[61] The fact-checker noted that Germany's crime rate, particularly the violent crime rate, is far lower than in the United States, and that data suggest that the crime rate of the average refugee is lower than that of the average German.[61]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr..._crime#Germany

[Deleted]

A rise in hate crimes has no doubt driven many minorities to take self defense courses. It's the same thing here.

But I'm talking about German citizens living in their own country who are not feeling safe anymore.

What kind of hate crimes are you talking about by the way?

[Teebone]

I don't follow. This is a top news story today so why can't we discuss it?

Are you for real? Is he/she/it for real?

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Just today I heard on the radio while driving to work that there's more people applying for self defense courses, obtaining weapon permissions, buying defensive tools like pepper sprays and so on than ever in German history. I might know the reasons for that, do you?

There are probably a lot of reasons for that. Anti-muslim sentiment is likely one of those reasons. But then of course there's also the rise of neo-nazi groups. To try and boil it down to just one thing is arrogantly naive.

Regardless, the point of this thread is to discuss Neo-Nazis...not muslim refugees.

[primalmatter]

There are probably a lot of reasons for that. Anti-muslim sentiment is likely one of those reasons. But then of course there's also the rise of neo-nazi groups. To try and boil it down to just one thing is arrogantly naive.

Regardless, the point of this thread is to discuss Neo-Nazis...not muslim refugees.

To be fair they are going to be mentioned as they are the main driving force of the reforming of the nazi party.

[Deleted]

can somebody explain to me why right wing extreme nazicism is on the rise currently?
one might wonders if the politicians do something that would make normal people go all Hitler and stuff, but so far every single politician of a western country has acted perfectly reasonable with only their own population, the people that voted for them, in consideration to their deeds.

It really is worrying. Let's hope with all the nazis gone underground the lefties are not going to destroy civil property again

[Kaleredar]

To be fair they are going to be mentioned as they are the main driving force of the reforming of the nazi party.

And two wrongs don't make a right.

[THE Bigzoman]

I like how the interviewer says "perception that the government can't protect you" as if the EU hasn't given anyone any reason to think that they're incompetent.