Intel: Russia has Compromising info on Trump.

[HumbleDuck]

At this point I don't even care about the truth, this thread is "golden".
Haha haha...

[Felya]

It would explain this. Or any of the other Russia-friendly things he's said, like the whole Crimea thing.

Or this....

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...snt-in-ukraine

"He's not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He's not gonna go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down," the GOP presidential nominee said Sunday on ABC's "This Week."
Host George Stephanopoulos pushed back, saying, "Well, he's already there, isn't he?"

"OK, well, he's there in a certain way," Trump responded.

"But I'm not there. You have [President] Obama there. And, frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under Obama, with all the strength that you're talking about and all of the power of NATO and all of this."

As in, literally what you quoted accused him of. Not only does he complain about NATO, but starts by saying Putin isn't going into Ukraine.

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Oh I don't question if the document made it up there. It clearly did.

The real question is if the content is true, which up to now is in a vast grey area.

We don't even know if it's the same document. Although, as I pointed out, some of it does add up. Not that it's not a tact to disguise misinformation, with Trump giving enouph jaw dropping quotes to match the assertions.

[Sunseeker]

*nod*... that is why I think she is "better".... lol

Hmmm, if Trump is the Joker and Hillary is Two-Face, what does that make Bernie?

[alexw]

Oh I don't question if the document made it up there. It clearly did.

The real question is if the content is true, which up to now is in a vast grey area.

The chiefs of the FBI, NSA, and CIA, are taking the document seriously and have briefed the leaders of congress on it. They have also checked out the ex-MI6 source and his network and said they are legit.

It may be fake after all but its way more credible than you are making out.

[Felya]

The chiefs of the FBI, NSA, and CIA, are taking the document seriously and have briefed the leaders of congress on it. They have also checked out the ex-MI6 source and his network and said they are legit.

It may be fake after all but its way more credible than you are making out.

Do we know that this is the same document and not just two stories converging?

[alexw]

Or this....

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...snt-in-ukraine



As in, literally what you quoted accused him of. Not only does he complain about NATO, but starts by saying Putin isn't going into Ukraine.

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We don't even know if it's the same document. Although, as I pointed out, some of it does add up. Not that it's not a tact to disguise misinformation, with Trump giving enouph jaw dropping quotes to match the assertions.

Its the same document, apparently its been passing round the intelligence and press circles for months now.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...hics-questions

[minteK917]

What a great time to be alive. The lost generation and their war has nothing on us now.

[lasheric]

label this thread "fake news" thanks.

[Felya]

Hmmm, if Trump is the Joker and Hillary is Two-Face, what does that make Bernie?

Ragman.....

[RickJamesLich]

Lol. You believe 4chan did it. Lol.

Nah, you're right, this document is legit and Trump got hookers to give him golden showers and Russia was working to make him President for the last 8+ years lol.

[Felya]

Its the same document, apparently its been passing round the intelligence and press circles for months now.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...hics-questions

Thank ya... well... can't say I didn't try...

[Breccia]

label this thread "fake news" thanks.

Why? Because you disagree with it?

As mentioned multiple times it's being covered by basically every news agency in the US and many abroad. Explain why it should be dismissed with a handwave.

[Felya]

Nah, you're right, this document is legit and Trump got hookers to give him golden showers and Russia was working to make him President for the last 8+ years lol.

Let's not pretend this is the first tie we have of Trump to stuff like this. Remember Panama Papers? Trump did lie about that plane ride...

[Zandalarian Paladin]

The chiefs of the FBI, NSA, and CIA, are taking the document seriously and have briefed the leaders of congress on it. They have also checked out the ex-MI6 source and his network and said they are legit.

It may be fake after all but its way more credible than you are making out.

To be honest, the reason is that these stories happened a lot during the elections. They're not new and, well, they're usually smear campaign done to destroy the reputation of someone. When the story finally comes to light as being fake, the damage's been done.

The timing, the several disclaimers, the analysis and the eagerness of people who dislike Trump to jump on any piece that could serve them is what makes these documents so easy to forge. Likewise, so were the Pizzagate/Spirit Cooking hoax, the pedophilia sex ring (mostly fed by Weiner), Clinton's being a Satanist, the FBI reopening the e-mail cases right before elections, and I'm probably forgetting some.

I think that it's only fair to say that this just seem odd. Anti-Trump advocates comes out and suddenly publish highly-sensible information that could indict Trump right before he is being officially given the role of President.

If anything, it has to at least raise an eyebrow.

EDIT: As someone posted above, taking a good read at this page can help put some perspective: https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...hics-questions

[minteK917]

label this thread "fake news" thanks.

Why is it fake, its on every news network and site, independent of left or right?

[Edge-]

Why is it fake, its on every news network and site, independent of left or right?

It's simply unverified. So by all accounts, this whole story could be fake. But it's not being presented, from what I can tell, as fact. Every article I've read clearly states that this is unverified, and possibly unverifiable, information.

But Trump supporters have taken to trying to distract from the real issue of fake news site by calling any news they don't like "fake", and attempting to conflate poor journalism (which is a problem) with fake news (which is also problem, but not the same problem).

[Felya]

To be honest, the reason is that these stories happened a lot during the elections. They're not new and, well, they're usually smear campaign done to destroy the reputation of someone. When the story finally comes to light as being fake, the damage's been done.

The timing, the several disclaimers, the analysis and the eagerness of people who dislike Trump to jump on any piece that could serve them is what makes these documents so easy to forge. Likewise, so were the Pizzagate/Spirit Cooking hoax, the pedophilia sex ring (mostly fed by Weiner), Clinton's being a Satanist, the FBI reopening the e-mail cases right before elections, and I'm probably forgetting some.

I think that it's only fair to say that this just seem odd. Anti-Trump advocates comes out and suddenly publish highly-sensible information that could indict Trump right before he is being officially given the role of President.

If anything, it has to at least raise an eyebrow.

The bold is complete bullshit. It is not like those at all. Nowhere in any email leaks, and espeacially nothing from Wiener, did it assert she was a Satanist. People took the words "spirit dinner" as the only thing that lead them to believe she was a satanist. You are being an example of Russian misinformation campaign.

[alexw]

Nah, you're right, this document is legit and Trump got hookers to give him golden showers and Russia was working to make him President for the last 8+ years lol.

I didn't say it was legit. I said the idea 4chan made it is LOL, and it is.

You've got to be really really dumb to believe that a 4channer would be able to fool the NSA, FBI, and CIA, into believing that he's an ex-MI6 agent with a Russian contact network from his MI6 days.

[May90]

Plot-twist: this is actually a very cunning plot. Evil CIA agents have tapped into the Republican election process and manipulated the public opinion into first in the primaries, then in the general election, voting for the most dirty person in the history of the US presidential elections. Now, right before he is to take the seat, all the documentation CIA had on him will pop up, he will get in jail, and, at the time of foreign governments interfering with the US politics in such daring ways, a special committee will be called and make Hillary into the great dictator! She will then declare war on Russia over Crimea, annex Russia and become the god of Earth.

Someone's gotta write a book with such plot!

[minteK917]

EDIT: As someone posted above, taking a good read at this page can help put some perspective: https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...hics-questions

Buzzfeed made the right call. Its pretty much like saying you have stuff on Hillary and then say you actually had nothing the next day. If intelligence agency are dumb enough to fall for false documents, its still news. The paper definitively needed to be public. The article blames buzzfeed for simply saying they got access to the papers like all media and intelligence agents, make of them what you will. Thats journalism, they dont give you their opinion on the paper, they dont even claim its true. All they confirm is where the paper comes from and who has seen it.