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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The bold is complete bullshit. It is not like those at all. Nowhere in any email leaks, and espeacially nothing from Wiener, did it assert she was a Satanist. People took the words "spirit dinner" as the only thing that lead them to believe she was a satanist. You are being an example of Russian misinformation campaign.
    I'm not mixing these together. I'm just stating that these have all been debunked, but that the pro-Trump crowd was quick to jump on many of these and take them as godspel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    Buzzfeed made the right call. Its pretty much like saying you have stuff on Hillary and then say you actually had nothing the next day. If intelligence agency are dumb enough to fall for a false documents, its still news. The paper definitively needed to be public. The article blames buzzfeed for simply saying they got access to the papers like all media and intelligence agents, make of them what you will. Thats journalism, they dont give you their opinion on the paper, they dont even claim its true. All they confirm is where the paper comes from and who has seen it.
    I advocate transparency, so I respect Buzzfeed's decision to publish. They state repeatedly that the document should be taken with a grain of salt and I take their word for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's simply unverified. So by all accounts, this whole story could be fake. But it's not being presented, from what I can tell, as fact. Every article I've read clearly states that this is unverified, and possibly unverifiable, information.
    I am sure everyone in the entire political spectrum will treat the unverified, unverifiable information with exactly the same respect they treated the information from WikiLeaks.

    *snicker*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I am sure everyone in the entire political spectrum will treat the unverified, unverifiable information with exactly the same respect they treated the information from WikiLeaks.

    *snicker*
    FBI, CIA and NSA validated them, though.
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    two things are ridiculous about Trump supporter reactions:

    1. They readily jumped on the bandwagon of all batshit insane Obama/Clinton conspiracy theories over the past eight years. Stories that had either zero or significantly less credibility than what's happening now.

    2. They are now passing around a screencap of some guy on /pol/ claiming he faked it as proof that /pol/ faked it. Does the concept of irony exist for these folks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    two things are ridiculous about Trump supporter reactions:

    1. They readily jumped on the bandwagon of all batshit insane Obama/Clinton conspiracy theories over the past eight years. Stories that had either zero or significantly less credibility than what's happening now.

    2. They are now passing around a screencap of some guy on /pol/ claiming he faked it as proof that /pol/ faked it. Does the concept of irony exist for these folks?
    And then people who were against people believing all the stupid Obama/Clinton conspiracy theories will immediately jump to believing something that says it's unverified and possibly faked. They'll also not believe the guy on /pol/ while believing random people on Twitter. Both sides are the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I am sure everyone in the entire political spectrum will treat the unverified, unverifiable information with exactly the same respect they treated the information from WikiLeaks.

    *snicker*
    So? Cant blame actual transparent journalism for that. Buzzfeed article is the opposite of fake news, its real news. The source of the document is confirmed. Who have seen it is confirmed. Even other medias confirmed they have seen it. What buzzfeed cant confirm and doesent claim it does or can, is if all or any of the document is true. They are informing you about the document that has been going around secretly in the media, CIA, FBI, NSA and the white house for some time. Thats the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodElf4Life View Post
    FBI, CIA and NSA validated them, though.
    Eventually, yes. And they seem to be looking pretty heavily into this as well. I am 100% sarcastically sure that people who accepted WikiLeaks as true within hours of its release, will accept this also as true as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodElf4Life View Post
    FBI, CIA and NSA validated them, though.
    Validated what, the Wikileaks emails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Eventually, yes. And they seem to be looking pretty heavily into this as well. I am 100% sarcastically sure that people who accepted WikiLeaks as true within hours of its release, will accept this also as true as well.
    I have to say that having ten years without publishing a single false document does tend to help you have credibility when you publish a new batch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    And then people who were against people believing all the stupid Obama/Clinton conspiracy theories will immediately jump to believing something that says it's unverified and possibly faked. They'll also not believe the guy on /pol/ while believing random people on Twitter. Both sides are the same.
    everything going on right now isn't based on some random Twitter person

    but that doesn't matter. it's all unverified and I won't believe it until it is. unlike conservatives for the past 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Validated what, the Wikileaks emails?
    Yes, it's in their published security document. They assess that there are no obvious forgeries in the released e-mails. They also found no ties between Wikileaks and Russia, but they think that Russia may have used a third party to distribute the e-mails to wikileaks, in which case they wouldn't have known in the first place. But the e-mails themselves received the validation from US intel.
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    CNN...

    ...really?

    Get a credible source please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    two things are ridiculous about Trump supporter reactions:

    1. They readily jumped on the bandwagon of all batshit insane Obama/Clinton conspiracy theories over the past eight years. Stories that had either zero or significantly less credibility than what's happening now.

    2. They are now passing around a screencap of some guy on /pol/ claiming he faked it as proof that /pol/ faked it. Does the concept of irony exist for these folks?
    The thing is, it only takes about half a brain cell to realize that the whole /pol/ claim is complete BS. That's not to say the claims in the document are true, but its certainly the case that /pol/ had absolutely nothing to do with it.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Someone is getting trolled by 4chan lol

    This leak was fabricated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilanth View Post
    CNN...

    ...really?

    Get a credible source please.
    Go check NBC, ABC, BBC, and any other 3 letter news organization that you care to think of. They all have it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilanth View Post
    CNN...

    ...really?

    Get a credible source please.
    Its even on fox, its on everything lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilanth View Post
    CNN...

    ...really?

    Get a credible source please.
    Reading fail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Since people are continuing to say "CNN lol"

    Reuters
    The BBC
    NBC
    CBS
    ABC
    The LA Times
    FOX
    Breitbart, kinda. This article is more of "well yes, but Russia hacked during Obama's tenure BLAME HIM". I just felt like including them in the list.

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    You guys realize that this "compromising info" is actually likely a major troll, because these people are so desperate to frame Trump, that they'll buy anything, right? Both republicans and democrats are being absolutely retarded in this tirade to make Trump look bad.
    Look at the dates. It's all archived too, if you wanna go look for it.

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/106524105/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilanth View Post
    Someone is getting trolled by 4chan lol

    This leak was fabricated.
    This story has already been debunked. The document is older than pol claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilanth View Post
    Someone is getting trolled by 4chan lol

    This leak was fabricated.
    No it wasn't. The idea that some 4channer fooled the FBI, CIA, and NSA into believing that he is an ex-MI6 agent with a Russian contact network is beyond stupid.

    You've got to be literally brain dead to believe such an argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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