Originally Posted by
azarak
Of all the expansions to compare to <insert current expansion to complain about here>, why is vanilla WoW the one many people argue are the best? I can kind of relate to WotLK/BC even though there is still vastly much more to do now than back then, but vanilla onestly was a sad attempt of a game compared to Legion. Maybe it was cool back in its time, but when I look back, I see a game that:
-Has ridiculously imbalanced classes/specs, and by far worse than now to the point that hybrids couldn't DPS, plate wearers were only useful as tanks, and DPS classes only had one viable spec. - imbalances yes, no hybrids false, plate wearers only useful as tanks.... warriors were the highest dps, dps only had one viable spec..... see warlock. You obviously never played Vanilla. Stop posting.
-There was 3 less classes (DH, DK, monk) with the first 2 being widely popular. - Oh
-Horde didn't have paladins, alliance didn't have shamans. - Oh
-Only 8 races, and let's face it, without blood elves, we'd lose half the current horde population. - Oh
-Terrible graphics and character models compared to now, with horrible facial animations. - Oh.... and btw Retail wow has terrible graphics too.
-Ridiculously long and grindy dungeons/raids with next to no mechanics and way too much trash. - Next to no mechanics must = more than legion and too much trash..... complain more
-The only reputations were very time-consuming and boring mob grinds, or item turn-ins with items from mob-grinding. - Oh
-No flying, which apparently is a ridiculously massive problem for many players. - Thank god!
-On that note, no mounts until level 40, like ffs, fuck leveling with that, I don't know how i did it as a warlock... - Oh..... and Thank god!
-Clunky, long, and unintuitive quests that sent you across the globe (again without mounts, hello shaman class quests) and forced you to often use Thotbot to figure out what to do - you poor baby. Looks like someone could not cut it on Nost.
-No quest voice over besides the very most important characters, no cutscenes (which are amazing), and no interesting quests, literally only killing, gathering, and escourts. - Oh wow, those voiceover quests make all the difference. Those cut scenes sure make an mmo.
-No max level content besides raiding/dungeons, and PvP. (Wait isn't the problem now that there isn't enough to do? Weird...) - More max level raids than any expansion..... you never played Vanilla
-Having to walk all the way to altarac/hillsbrad to queue for AV, or arathi for AB, etc. - Oh..... more crying from you
-PvP incredibly unbalanced, enh shamans one shotting people with windfury procs, warlocks being ridiculous, etc. - But I thought only one spec worked?
-Waiting around in the main cities for an hour trying to get a group for the specific dungeon you want. - You mean you had to get a reputation for not being bad to get a group. That is so bad that you had to wait hours. You must be terrible.
-Without a good guild, you could just forget about doing raids and thus not having any reason to do dungeons. - You never played Vanilla.
I mean I could go on all day and the only benefits I see are from nostalgia goggles and can never be fixed outside of a completely new game:
-The game is new, so everything is interesting and unknown.
-People first playnig the game were much younger, so things are of course going to be more "magical" to younger kids. I myself was like 12-13 at first.
Honestly that's all I can even think of, after staring at my screen for 5minutes. Outside of nostalgia, vanilla is just objectively the worse "expansion" (yea, it's not an expansion, w/e). I'm legitimately curious to hear what anyone has to say that was nice about vanilla as opposed to now. Oh, and try not to say things that blizzard has tried reintroducing recently and it tanked horribly because nobody liked it.