Intel: Russia has Compromising info on Trump.

[Fojos]

It almost doesn't matter if any of the revelations are true, the problem is that any of those allegations are believable and that speaks volumes about the character of the soon to be "leader of the free world". Trump is a Z list celeb at best and hopefully his term is more comedy than tragedy.

They're just believable if your level of thinking is on the same level as monkeys.

[urasim]

Worthless because it demolishes any point you were trying to make?

K

How can it demolish anything? It was just an insult... You VASTLY overestimate your capabilities.

[schwarzkopf]

i wouldnt be shocked if putin reveals trump was his "manchurian candidate" all along,

I don't think for one second that Trump is complicit in this, or at least has been complicit.

I think he was playing a game and then won power in a surprise (even for him), the powers that be (wealthy etc) basically grabbed the vacuous twit and made him their tool. In years to come, I can see Trump being looked back at with pity, not with hatred.

A sick man, elected to power then used and abused and discarded.

[Deleted]

Hahaha, hypocrite, how about instead of being offended you address the actually points like I did.

Here, I'll repost it without the "cult" comment.

"Where did McCain get it from? I never said he got it from 4chan... You really, really, really need to read what people write and drop your biases."

Seriously, where the fuck is everyone's skepticism gone?

And I posted one link (of dozen) giving you the answer. Another link, from the same journal, but with detailed info:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lainer-details

[Thepersona]

thats certainly what its starting to look like.

i wouldnt be shocked if putin reveals trump was his "manchurian candidate" all along, just to try and discredit our democratic process.
meanwhile his trolls keep the masses riled up about "feminists" and "liberals" so they happily ignore the true threat.
looks like i'm not the only one.

I think that we should wait a few weeks, for the ruskies to reveal the damning info of trump, topple him and leave the US without anything, apart from the alt righties

[Dug]

How can it demolish anything? It was just an insult... You VASTLY overestimate your capabilities.

My power level is over 9000 u don't know me

[cubby]

How do you Trumpers swallow all of his lies? First he denies, mocks US intelligence agencies. Then he claims false news and media bias. Now he finally admits Russia influence. Does any of that behavior sound presidential?

[Fojos]

Believing these organisations isn't he problem - believing Buzzfeed when it posts out of context documents with fake additions and commentary ...IS.

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No you can't ... stop making crap up. He had qualified people in his cabinet.

e.g. - if Trump had appointed the Exxon boss to Department of Energy that's qualified, he didn't - he appointed him to SoS. That's evidence of the problem at hand.

It is the problem. Everyone should have seen by now the absolute disgrace these agencies have become.

[Woadnson]

What would constitute "Agitprop?"

Misinformation campaigns, from basement level forums through to military purposely putting out contradictory reports concerning warzone activities. Polarisation of the American political spectrum is evident if you have the misfortune to look through forum posts on news sites. These sorts of psychological campaigns have been overlooked as the Agit element effects are only galvanising to people who are deep into one end of the spectrum (and those people are most likely to be susceptible to media/lies that falls into bias confirmation).

[urasim]

They're just believable if your level of thinking is on the same level as monkeys.

You can substitute anyone into the documents for Trump and it's believable. Nothing said was so crazy that it's impossible.

Anyone can be corrupt. Anyone can get drunk on power, drugs, and alcohol and have prostitutes pee on themselves for stupid reasons.

[Torto]

Done ... check out his cabinet, mostly high end business men with no qualifications.

Nepotism...possibly maybe, but not fascism. And what qualifications do most politicians have exactly? Frankly, I'd prefer successful businessmen in charge for a while, instead of a bunch of hand wringing SJWs that have gone straight from university to politics.

Said ... check out his twitter feed, the wall, the Muslim registry, the US centric production focus etc.

Isolationist, and some would incorrectly say racist, but not fascist.

Remember - I'm NOT saying he is a NAZI, I'm just using the term fascist as it was originally designed to represent far right wing power at the top, corporate control government policies.

Terms like socialist, communist, fascist have distorted meanings in the mind of much of the US due to the US having a very right wing focused society.

So in other words there is no real evidence of Trump being a fascist, or even has fascist tendencies, but it's something you guys like to paint him as because it sounds bad. And also it paints him as a dictator like Hitler or Mussolini. If you are going to attack the guy, try to do it fairly and tone down the hyperbole.

[schwarzkopf]

Everyone should have seen by now the absolute disgrace these agencies have become.

Be rational please.... look at what these agencies are meant to do, and they do it just fine.

They are meant to provide INFORMATION - nothing else.

What you falsely perceive as their disgrace is nothing more than successive governments (of both sides) frequently or not so frequently misusing the information and/or various media misreporting on it.

It is a fool who shoots the messenger just because they don't like the message.

[Vyxn]

I read it, you are reading too much into it.

You are still avoiding the question I have asked you. Why is that?

Were you outraged at all those other instances of media outlets reporting unverified information? Were you angry about reports of Benghazi, Obama's birth certificate, Obama being a Muslim, Hillary's e-mails, or with the reports on WMDs, Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, and Flight 93?

I'll wait for your response.

look I'm not going to answer such a wide rangeing question give me a specific article

[starlord]

I don't think for one second that Trump is complicit in this, or at least has been complicit.

I think he was playing a game and then won power in a surprise (even for him), the powers that be (wealthy etc) basically grabbed the vacuous twit and made him their tool. In years to come, I can see Trump being looked back at with pity, not with hatred.

A sick man, elected to power then used and abused and discarded.

he has way too many financial and personal ties to russia for it to be an accident. his campaign manager paul manafort had very close, and very shady ties to the russian government in case we've all forgotten. https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcne...?client=safari

i dont believe he thought he would succeed, to him it was probably just a game and a chance to win some money and power.

[Fojos]

You can substitute anyone into the documents for Trump and it's believable. Nothing said was so crazy that it's impossible.

Anyone can be corrupt. Anyone can get drunk on power, drugs, and alcohol and have prostitutes pee on themselves for stupid reasons.

No, what's ridiculous as fuck is people first believing these things, then actually believing that russia used this to blackmail Trump into running for president against all odds. Give me a break! Not even young children are this slow.

[urasim]

How do you Trumpers swallow all of his lies? First he denies, mocks US intelligence agencies. Then he claims false news and media bias. Now he finally admits Russia influence. Does any of that behavior sound presidential?

Pretty sure only one person in this thread is a true Trump supporter. The rest of us are trying to preserve skepticism.

[Fojos]

Be rational please.... look at what these agencies are meant to do, and they do it just fine.

They are meant to provide INFORMATION - nothing else.

What you falsely perceive as their disgrace is nothing more than successive governments (of both sides) frequently or not so frequently misusing the information and/or various media misreporting on it.

It is a fool who shoots the messenger just because they don't like the message.

They're supposed to provide CORRECT information. Not just information. They're failing terribly.

[May90]

You fucking morons again and again believe everything these intelligence agencies say.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...se_youre_fake/

"You morons believe everything..."
*links a reddit post with a random picture*

Me:

[Thepersona]

"You morons believe everything..."
*links a reddit post with a random picture*

Me:

And uses a photo from the donald subreddit

[schwarzkopf]

Nepotism...possibly maybe, but not fascism.

YOu are looking to narrowly at his behaviours and words. His cabinet alone might see him as an Oligarch ... but then you have to add the Nationalist ideals, and the nature of his personality (a demagogue) to end up with the conclusion.

Being fascist isn't in and of itself destructive, a healthy political system would temper his fascist ideals. The problem is that the US political system is far from healthy.

So - yes, as a matter of fact, Trump is a fascist.... but a literal one, not the boogey man definition that many Americans see the definition as.