Black Pastors Defend Sessions Against Racism Charges

[Torto]

If you guys would rather be offended over nothing than understand an incredibly straightforward analogy, I can't help you.

If I could be so blunt, your analogy sucked. A lot. But it opens a doorway to your way of thinking I suppose.

[Torto]

The analogy is perfectly fine. Someone who was wronged can claim they weren't wronged and still be wrong. Their word isn't law.

WTF?? How can they be wrong? It is their decision to be offended or not, not some arbitrary PC Star Chamber. What a load of Thought Police bullshit.

[Torto]

Racism isn't determined by offense.

Let me guess, it's determined by the feels in America?

In my country, you can be persecuted under section 18c of the Racial Discrimination act. But only if the person/s offended makes a complaint. Are you saying it's different in the US? Or are you not talking legally but morally?

[Elegiac]

Let me guess, it's determined by the feels in America?

In my country, you can be persecuted under section 18c of the Racial Discrimination act. But only if the person/s offended makes a complaint. Are you saying it's different in the US? Or are you not talking legally but morally?

Australian law is in no way a good litmus test for conducting race relations, just so you know.

[Torto]

Australian law is in no way a good litmus test for conducting race relations, just so you know.

Wow, wtf is that supposed to mean?

[Elegiac]

Wow, wtf is that supposed to mean?

You might be a bit young to remember Pauline Hanson's first go around, apologies.

[Stacyrect]

Let me guess, it's determined by the feels in America?

In my country, you can be persecuted under section 18c of the Racial Discrimination act. But only if the person/s offended makes a complaint. Are you saying it's different in the US? Or are you not talking legally but morally?

We have the 1st amendment in the US, which unfortunately, protects racist speech. However, if you act on those words, that is considered a hate crime which carries stiff criminal penalties and a very bad reputation for the jail you would likely be going to.

[Hashtronaut]

Just because a battered wife says she deserved it doesn't mean it isn't abuse.

I was talking about apples...why'd you bring up oranges.

[Moon-Man]

The word racist, or racism is gradually losing it's meaning.

Too many people using it, what happens when a word is being overused? Loses its meaning entirely. I predict in the next 5-15 years the word will be meaningless.

[Elegiac]

The word racist, or racism is gradually losing it's meaning.

Too many people using it, what happens when a word is being overused? Loses its meaning entirely. I predict in the next 5-15 years the word will be meaningless.

I propose we replace it with 'shitlord'.

[Torto]

If you don't know what words mean, please say so instead of wasting everyone's time with inanity. Racism has no relationship with the ability to be prosecuted. If not one law existed, racism could still exist.

Fine, so you are speaking from some sort of SJW morality. In other words, your moral vanity. Speaking of wasting everyone's time....

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You might be a bit young to remember Pauline Hanson's first go around, apologies.

Probably older than you but irrelevant.

And Hanson is no more representative of the average Australian than the KKK is to the average American. If that is how you categorise citizens in my country, I don't know what to say to you that would pierce your ignorance.

[Torto]

Morality has nothing to do with it. Racism is still racism, whether you think it's moral, immoral, or amoral. You can try to use condescension to cover up your ignorance, but it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. Your objections strongly suggest you don't have even a basic understanding of racism, which puts you behind even most other Gen-OT posters.

Slow down before you fall off that pedestal your white horse has on it's back that you are riding.

What makes you the authority on what racism is? By what right do you get to lecture me on what is and isn't racist? Such arrogance, pretentiousness and presumptuousness only accentuates my point. I don't need a 3rd party to point out which of my interactions are appropriate with another human being. That is between me and the person I'm talking to.

How far do you go with this? Unbelievable.....

[Saucexorzski]

Slow down before you fall off that pedestal your white horse has on it's back that you are riding.

What makes you the authority on what racism is? By what right do you get to lecture me on what is and isn't racist? Such arrogance, pretentiousness and presumptuousness only accentuates my point. I don't need a 3rd party to point out which of my interactions are appropriate with another human being. That is between me and the person I'm talking to.

How far do you go with this? Unbelievable.....

Its in the lefts best interest to control what is racism/sexism/bigotry. They stole that privilege from the right as they came to power in the 70s/80s.

[Torto]

Its in the lefts best interest to control what is racism/sexism/bigotry. They stole that privilege from the right as they came to power in the 70s/80s.

100% correct. Worse, the right surrendered the education system to the left. In the 70s and 80s, schools, colleges and universities were overrun with Marxist, socialist, progressive left teachers and lecturers.The groupthink is real, I experienced it first hand as a middle age student at University. It was a real eye opener. The end result is you get indoctrinated people like Nixx who couldn't possibly fathom that their world view is somehow not the correct one. And anyone who disagrees with them gets shamed with whichever 'ist' or 'ism' feels appropriate.

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For one, I can use a dictionary.

Perhaps you should stop standing on it to look down at people and actually read it.

[Miztickow]

Jeff Sessions isn't just racist; he's also as corrupt as his buddy Donald Drumpf:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politi...al-misconduct/

And here's some more sources in case you're one of those idiots who thinks CNN stands for Clinton News Network:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...105-story.html
http://www.citizen.org/documents/ses...-ag-report.pdf

[Hiricine]

The political equivalent of "I have a black friend so I can't be racist" isn't particularly compelling.

I haven't done homework on whether or not Sessions has a history of racism, but a handful of black pastors at the Family Research Council defending him has about as much validity as Alex Jones defending Trump.

How many black friends do you have to have until you're not racist?

I will also turn the argument around, and say that having a black enemy does not make you racist, which is how its generally seen by anyone without a real argument these days.

[Lenonis]

How many black friends do you have to have until you're not racist?

I will also turn the argument around, and say that having a black enemy does not make you racist, which is how its generally seen by anyone without a real argument these days.

That's actually my point -- you cannot measure racism by your friends or enemies. It's about your actions and beliefs. And there are plenty of bigots who still associate with individuals they look down on, either by justifying that they aren't really "one of those" or because the belief about an individual can be different than your views of the group that person is a part of.