Intel: Russia has Compromising info on Trump.

[LaserSharkDFB]

The thing about complaining that there are 'allegations published everywhere' is that it implies that this one story is the source of the whole thing. That's just not the case. There is information coming in from many different vectors that suggest various different Trump/Russia interactions, plus reporting on other stations reporting on the report, plus reporting on Trump being a dick to CNN for no reason, plus CNN defending themselves from the claims of fake news which they are most certainly entitled to do. A lot of the airtime has been generated by Trump being himself instead of shutting up like someone elected to the highest office in the country should be doing.

Trump campaigned on unfounded allegations against Clinton; remember 'Lock her up'? He even said he only did it because it played well during the campaign. There was no kind of massive push on the right to tone down that rhetoric, and the MSM is being far more reasonable than the right ever was. Besides, the MSM will follow the money, and people are quite understandably interested in whether or not Trump is under Putin's thumb.

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Right now, the only clear link between Russia and Trump is through some members of his administration. Nothing seems to connect Trump personally with Russia, but I'll wait until I hear more information before passing judgement. Which is really what I ask out of this thread.

I strongly suspect that if we were to go through this thread, the number of people saying 'Trump is definitely guilty' will be far outnumbered by the people saying 'LOL FAKE NEWS'.

[minteK917]

You're talking to a guy who thinks the jews run everything.

I swear i heard that before somewhere!

[Deleted]

What I support less, however, are the media organization who push these allegations day and night.

Welcome to jornalism since its inception in the 1800s?

[Zandalarian Paladin]

The thing about complaining that there are 'allegations published everywhere' is that it implies that this one story is the source of the whole thing. That's just not the case. There is information coming in from many different vectors that suggest various different Trump/Russia interactions, plus reporting on other stations reporting on the report, plus reporting on Trump being a dick to CNN for no reason, plus CNN defending themselves from the claims of fake news which they are most certainly entitled to do. A lot of the airtime has been generated by Trump being himself instead of shutting up like someone elected to the highest office in the country should be doing.

Trump campaigned on unfounded allegations against Clinton; remember 'Lock her up'? He even said he only did it because it played well during the campaign. There was no kind of massive push on the right to tone down that rhetoric, and the MSM is being far more reasonable than the right ever was. Besides, the MSM will follow the money, and people are quite understandably interested in whether or not Trump is under Putin's thumb.

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I strongly suspect that if we were to go through this thread, the number of people saying 'Trump is definitely guilty' will be far outnumbered by the people saying 'LOL FAKE NEWS'.

Two wrongs does not make a right.

Likewise, "LOL FAKE NEWS" is probably proportionnal to "stupid conservators/right/Trumpet".

[HumbleDuck]

What?

This is from October:
Mosul offensive: officials confirm US troops are on the ground

This is from December:
U.S. forces embedding more to help Iraqis retake Mosul: commander
'Our coalition must endure': 5,000+ US troops embed with coalition forces to strike Mosul

You obviously have no idea.

Calling out coordinates and deploying "advisors" is not direct involvement.
In the other hand, Iranian forces suffered over 2500 casualties up till November last year. Now that is called direct involvement.

[Deleted]

Personally I think it is Karma

It truly is karma in action.

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Two wrongs does not make a right.

Likewise, "LOL FAKE NEWS" is probably proportionnal to "stupid conservators/right/Trumpet".

No, it doesn't. But there is a nice popular saying in my country that explains it, "don't spit to the air, it might fall back on you".

[LaserSharkDFB]

Two wrongs does not make a right.

Likewise, "LOL FAKE NEWS" is probably proportional to "stupid conservators/right/Trumpet".

True, but when one wrong is the ethical equivalent to murdering puppies and the other is the equivalent to shoplifting a candy bar, why are you focused on the candy bar? Even assuming that what the MSM is doing is ethically wrong, which I do not.

And when various parties come in and lie, and defend their lies with lies, and refuse to acknowledge that they're lying, they don't get to bitch about getting called out on their lying.

[Dire]

Lol cnn...

[araine]

I'm expecting that Mike Pence will be president within a year, which is good news for everyone - because Pence whilst a dimwitted creationist - is in fact SANE.

And a totally out of touch in most areas, extremely dangerous with his lack of knowledge of science and basics like the earth being more than 6000 years old.

[Thepersona]

And a totally out of touch in most areas, extremely dangerous with his lack of knowledge of science and basics like the earth being more than 6000 years old.

He will be a bush jr 2.0 apart from the iraq fiasco, he was that bad?

[NYC17]

He will be a bush jr 2.0 apart from the iraq fiasco, he was that bad?

It took Trump to rescue Pence's career. He is worse than Bush.

[Shalcker]

Calling out coordinates and deploying "advisors" is not direct involvement.
In the other hand, Iranian forces suffered over 2500 casualties up till November last year. Now that is called direct involvement.

Well, then Russia is not "directly involved" in Syria either - same as US we just have forward observers, explosives experts to de-mine freed areas, and of course provide air support.

If you don't want to give credit to US that's fine - you got to note though that until US provided those 5000+ troops, Mosul didn't move one bit. Same for Aleppo from Russian side.

[DeadmanWalking]

Frankly Trump made it worse by calling CNN fake news, ensuring that not only would CNN make a big spectacle about defending itself but ensuring that it stayed in media rotation longer and other news companies would push the story as well for longer. News companies do not respond well to media black outs or threatening to kick reporters out because they don't say the things you want them too.

Also, Comrade Trump would do himself a great amount of good if he would grow a thicker skin and learn how to not respond to every comment anyone ever makes that doesn't paint him in the best color. When you move into the public eye you open yourself up for attacks, it's best to ignore the largest amount of those attacks and not open your trench coat inviting even more attacks at your soft underbelly. But since that isn't ever going to happen....

[Bullettime]

And it continues.

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To add, if true, it shows collusion between the RNC and Russia as well. The memos are not yet verified but it would explain the sudden softening on the Ukraine situation by the GOP and the DNC emails were dropped the day after Trump's win of the GOP primaries and the convention closed.

[primalmatter]

Frankly Trump made it worse by calling CNN fake news, ensuring that not only would CNN make a big spectacle about defending itself but ensuring that it stayed in media rotation longer and other news companies would push the story as well for longer. News companies do not respond well to media black outs or threatening to kick reporters out because they don't say the things you want them too.

Also, Comrade Trump would do himself a great amount of good if he would grow a thicker skin and learn how to not respond to every comment anyone ever makes that doesn't paint him in the best color. When you move into the public eye you open yourself up for attacks, it's best to ignore the largest amount of those attacks and not open your trench coat inviting even more attacks at your soft underbelly. But since that isn't ever going to happen....

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade?

Even a fool appears wise till he opens his mouth. Now everyone knows to wait until a news station verifies what cnn says before they report it.

[starlord]

And it continues.

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To add, if true, it shows collusion between the RNC and Russia as well. The memos are not yet verified but it would explain the sudden softening on the Ukraine situation by the GOP and the DNC emails were dropped the day after Trump's win of the GOP primaries and the convention closed.

link dont work

An unverified dossier provided to US intelligence officials alleges that President-elect Donald Trump "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russian intervention in Ukraine during his campaign after Russia promised to feed the emails it stole from prominent Democrats' inboxes to WikiLeaks.

found it elsewise.

[Shadowmelded]

link dont work

Think this is it. http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-...17-1?r=US&IR=T

[Belize]

Purely speculatory, before any Trump supporter gets overly triggered, but what are the consequences of collusion with another country to sway elections?

Like, there's gotta be a law or two against it.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Is it wrong to call a spade a spade?

Even a fool appears wise till he opens his mouth. Now everyone knows to wait until a news station verifies what cnn says before they report it.

What did CNN report incorrectly? Please be specific.

[Elim Garak]

What did CNN report incorrectly? Please be specific.

The entire report was reported incorrectly because the correct way of reporting was to not report at all.