long as its worded correctly for protesters, i can get behind this. Blocking a road should be looked as disturbing the peace and detained as such already.
long as its worded correctly for protesters, i can get behind this. Blocking a road should be looked as disturbing the peace and detained as such already.
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Thats odd, we now have a multi-billion dollar industry that involves people sitting at drone control stations murdering people they don't know in the middle of deserts, do you think if you sat your friend down at a drone console and told him he is playing call of duty, he would be so hesitant to commit murder?
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This part's dangerous, because there's a strong difference between physically doing the act of killing someone - looking at them without a screen is much stronger than looking at them through a screen.
You wouldn't kill someone unless absolutely necessary when in person. Likewise, for decades, soldiers couldn't shoot other soldiers willfully. Most just shot blindly and only a very small percentage shot to kill.
Through a screen, with the use of a drone, for instance, you're no longer the killer. The drone's the killer. You don't know him. The screen don't allow him to make eye contact, which is tremendously dangerous.
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Don't stand in the road and you won't die, sound simple enough.
I think the ultimate evolution of drone warfare will become similar to how firing squads once worked in this country where most of the squad had fake rounds and the real rounds were randomly distributed so nobody knew for sure if they were the person who actually did the killing. Drone pilots will essentially run video game like simulations that are identical to real missions, with real missions being randomly assigned without the pilots actually knowing that on that particular mission they are killing people. Such a program would pretty much remove the psychological burden of killing, and perhaps the only improvement over this will be fully automated hunter killers.
I don't think people can be so cavalier about assuming that in the very near future we won't see a massive expansion of programs like this.
Also, as far as the 'running over protesters' law goes, I wonder how automated cars will play into this.
Most people would rather die than think, and most people do. -Bertrand Russell
Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed - nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps one learns: if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity - too bad for you -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I don't think the implication is that people are going to kill them because they are protesting, I think many are taking the position that
1. Protesters stopping and surrounding your car can be a grave threat to your person
2. People blocking traffic are putting themselves at danger
Also, we can't forget the case that happened in New York City:
Most people would rather die than think, and most people do. -Bertrand Russell
Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed - nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps one learns: if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity - too bad for you -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
That'd be amazing to have elsewhere in the world.
Nothing more rage-inducing than self righteous 'protestors' blocking roads for reasons completely unrelated to most of the people who use said road. If they feel endangered they won't block the road.
Are you people truly not reading anything about this law? There's more to it than the two quotes listed in the article.
It's not a law designed to give people a license to kill or all the other moronic things listed. It's a law that helps protect people from being punished when they are not at fault. Have you never, in all the combined years of not almost come close to hitting somebody because they were obstructing the roadways, particularly at night? Please get off your high horses and think.
and then he cupped my balls...
door is still on your property, even if by a fraction of a hair (but most of the time it's at least far enough for the door handle) so as soon as they get near enough for the door for you to be stopped by it, it's still trespassing so it's still moronic to say the door is assaulting them.
The only truly scary thing about this law is the possibility of someone with the same amount of intelligence as those sovereign citizen folks thinking this will let them drive a car through a bunch of people and kill them, and then try to say "well they were blocking the road so I could do what I wanted!" to defend himself in court. The rest is just mildly concerning for how far a lawyer could carry this, to the point of making vehicular manslaughter essentially a non existent crime by no longer making it possible to prosecute blatant negligence outside of a very subjective trial.
as long as they word it so people that are permitted to be on the road, emergency\road workers, permit holders etc are outlined as not covered by this law and it's made VERY aware they are not covered, I'm good with that. *IMO if you're jaywalking and you get ran over it should be 100% the jaywalkers fault (and its not always which I think is bull), it's too bad but I don't think the driver should be at any fault.
How is this, even a concern? There is only like a couple hundred people who live in North Dakota. And when did they call them "roads". I thought they were called "trails" for snowmobiles
Lol @ all the keyboard warriors acting like they are badasses calling for people to be murdered because they don't like how they protest. Keep them coming, you guys are hilarious.
I also don't think people are actually considering the full extent of this. Because it doesn't deny those protestors the right to self-defense.
If they see you coming, and you're not moving to avoid them, you're attacking them with violent intent. They're fully justified in drawing a sidearm and defending themselves from that assault.
This isn't swinging everything in favor of the driver, it's just creating a Mad Max situation on the roads. If there were some kind of upper bonds, like "if the vehicle is traveling less than 5mph" or something, so you could slowly roll through the protest without legal consequence, fine, but this just seems like it'll flare things up in a bad way.
That's because the text as was shown here is bullshit. As far as legal texts go, you can't go much worse than what they propose.
Here's my defense: "I didn't intent to kill him. I merely wanted to shove him gently aside, honest!" and I'm scot free. This goes btw for anyone who dares to show me the finger while happening to be on the street. So any Jaywalker that I honk that shows me a typical American reaction gets "unintentionally" killed.
Well, if I was bloodthirsty, that is. :P
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