Betsy DeVos, Trump’s education pick, hints at sweeping changes ahead

[Wells]

Her family contributing 100's of millions of dollars(as per the nominee herself) to Republican's is just a coincidence.

Something like 6 of the 10 Republicans on the committee have received money from her. Swamp draining at its finest.

[Rasulis]

Privatizing school is not a good idea.

Private schools do not bother me. Some of the best schools in the nation are private schools. However, I don't think for profit school is a good idea. Especially at elementary, middle and high school levels.

[Kapadons]

All well and good for people to talk mad ass shit about her but the people in charge before her were pieces of shit too. US education is a fucking train wreck when you compare it to other top nations while also looking at how much we spend per student while also realizing what our damn GDP is.

Any cocksucker that utters the words "budget cuts to education", liberal or conservative and anything in between, needs to be kicked in the face with a golf shoe.

[Wells]

I mean every administration there are some nominees that are questionable. But to see someone this clearly unqualified for the position...

[Kaleredar]

Private schools do not bother me. Some of the best schools in the nation are private schools. However, I don't think for profit school is a good idea. Especially at elementary, middle and high school levels.

Private schools are for profit schools, and it doesn't seem her plans revolve around universities one bit. Her plans are entirely focused on propping up private schools (meaning elementary, middle, and high schools) with government money, instead of spending it on public schools.

[Captain N]

I mean every administration there are some nominees that are questionable. But to see someone this clearly unqualified for the position...

Is there anyone in this batch of recommendations that is qualified for any of the posts they've been suggested?

[Kaleredar]

I mean every administration there are some nominees that are questionable. But to see someone this clearly unqualified for the position...

About every Trump nominee falls into that category.

[Wyrt]

Private schools do not bother me. Some of the best schools in the nation are private schools. However, I don't think for profit school is a good idea. Especially at elementary, middle and high school levels.

I don't have a problem with private schools, but I have a problem with defunding public schools to promote private schools.

[Wells]

Is there anyone in this batch of recommendations that is qualified for any of the posts they've been suggested?

Mattis would be an acceptable nomination were it not for the waiver issue.

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About every Trump nominee falls into that category.

Its really been amazing to see. It seems like the only criteria is loyalty and toadyism.

[Kaleredar]

All well and good for people to talk mad ass shit about her but the people in charge before her were pieces of shit too. US education is a fucking train wreck when you compare it to other top nations while also looking at how much we spend per student while also realizing what our damn GDP is.

Any cocksucker that utters the words "budget cuts to education", liberal or conservative and anything in between, needs to be kicked in the face with a golf shoe.

She is, essentially, saying there are going to be budget cuts to education.


But don't worry, as per the OP, she's going to make SJWs slightly less annoying, so all in all it's a net positive, amiright?

[Wells]

She is, essentially, saying there are going to be budget cuts to education.


But don't worry, as per the OP, she's going to make SJWs slightly less annoying, so all in all it's a net positive, amiright?

Yeah wanting to throw out Title IX because you disagree with some sexual assault policies is more than a little ridiculous.

[Captain N]

Its really been amazing to see. It seems like the only criteria is loyalty and toadyism.

All the things that he attempted to crucify Clinton for.

It's blinding hypocrisy and yet nobody on that side of the fence sees anything wrong with it.

[Wells]

All the things that he attempted to crucify Clinton for.

It's blinding hypocrisy and yet nobody on that side of the fence sees anything wrong with it.

The entire campaign was him attacking people for things he himself did. I don't see why he'd govern any differently.

[Kapadons]

I don't have a problem with private schools, but I have a problem with defunding public schools to promote private schools.

Federal money makes up like 7-8% of a schools budget. Or that's what it was the last time we had a school discussion on here. May be more now. Mostly they are paid by property tax stolen locally.

So I'm not quite sure how they intend to defund public schools. I mean an 8% budget cut, if they fully pulled all federal funding would definitely suck balls, and for shit schools in poor districts it would be catastrophic, but we couldn't possibly hope to think all public schools would be shut down in favor of private.

[NYC17]

I mean every administration there are some nominees that are questionable. But to see someone this clearly unqualified for the position...

Asked whether Christian schools should continue to rely on philanthropic dollars—rather than pushing for taxpayer money through vouchers—Betsy DeVos replied, "There are not enough philanthropic dollars in America to fund what is currently the need in education…[versus] what is currently being spent every year on education in this country…Our desire is to confront the culture in ways that will continue to advance God's Kingdom."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...tion-secretary


Ugh.

[Endus]

(source)

Hopefully she tears up the Title IX nonsense that has plagued campus'. The OCR 'Dear Colleague' letter was a disgrace.

Not sure why you think schools should be prevented from making administrative decisions regarding students and sexual improprieties, like literally any workplace is able to.

And the OCR letter you're referring to, so far as I know, just underscored that transgendered students aren't to be discriminated against. So I really don't see the issue, unless you're being explicitly transphobic.

All well and good for people to talk mad ass shit about her but the people in charge before her were pieces of shit too. US education is a fucking train wreck when you compare it to other top nations while also looking at how much we spend per student while also realizing what our damn GDP is.

Any cocksucker that utters the words "budget cuts to education", liberal or conservative and anything in between, needs to be kicked in the face with a golf shoe.

You can make arguments about cuts to education, but really only if you've;

A> identified specific examples of wasteful spending that you're going to eliminate or amend for greater efficiency, and
B> you can't better use the savings to provide improved services in some other respect.

Otherwise, don't pretend you're doing it for the kids. Be clear that you're hosing their education to save a few bucks. Own it, because that's what you're arguing, every single goddamned time.

[Garnier Fructis]

(source)

Hopefully she tears up the Title IX nonsense that has plagued campus'. The OCR 'Dear Colleague' letter was a disgrace.

What is specifically wrong with Title IX?

[Theodarzna]

Not sure why you think schools should be prevented from making administrative decisions regarding students and sexual improprieties, like literally any workplace is able to.

And the OCR letter you're referring to, so far as I know, just underscored that transgendered students aren't to be discriminated against. So I really don't see the issue, unless you're being explicitly transphobic.

Probably because this time, like last time you don't know the law on this matter.

[Kapadons]

She is, essentially, saying there are going to be budget cuts to education.


But don't worry, as per the OP, she's going to make SJWs slightly less annoying, so all in all it's a net positive, amiright?

She needs a kick in the face with a golf shoe.

It's one of my main points of opposition with conservatives. Only a mentally challenged drooler would look at falling test scores and our falling down the ranks of education amongst other nations and say "you know what the problem is? Too much money. We need to cut their budget. They can surely do better with less money and less resources"

[Rasulis]

Private schools are for profit schools, and it doesn't seem her plans revolve around universities one bit. Her plans are entirely focused on propping up private schools (meaning elementary, middle, and high schools) with government money, instead of spending it on public schools.

Not necessarily. High schools like Regis, Cistercian and Sacred Heart Atherton are all private non-profit. All three are ranked as some of the top high schools in the US. Regis does not even charge tuition. The problem is it only accepts 135 new students per year, and you have to be Roman Catholic.