Anyone have the numbers for all the specs that can use this? Would be nice to see the % increase per spec.
Anyone have the numbers for all the specs that can use this? Would be nice to see the % increase per spec.
Assa rogues with 3x MA / boots > rets >> everything else
As an rogue i must say its pretty strong for us but for other classes its way way stronger
Furthermore the proc rates arent final or rather live. Lets wait for some live logs to judge.
If the trinket is that strong the nerf bat will snack it.
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Well if you check the MM trinket sims, unless the guy is comparing convergence to arcano (Which he shouldn't be, because whatever other trinket he has would be his worst) It's the 2nd best trinket, quite a lot ahead of the next best that he could possibly have. (Not including arcano)
With the Arms warrior set bonus, they may have a higher priority then Ret does.
The other two I can think of are Assassin rogues, Vendetta is extremely strong and they already have so much that reduces the CD. Blizzard stealth nerfed the Relics, I think the reason was this trinket with those relics and the legendary would have given a strong cd almost no cooldown at all. The other is Havoc, it is a long cooldown and extremely powerful cooldown.
Now it also depends on the fights, some fights a class with a longer cooldown may get a bigger benefit because they can use it twice well that same fight it could be possible that a shorter cooldown may be used the same amount of times which could cause 0 gain from the trinket.
It isn't great for DK's, it is way mediocre for frost and unholy has much stronger trinkets (example is Draught of Souls off Gul'dan, that should go to an unholy dk before any other class due to stacking with mastery).
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If you go to wowhead and click on the proc, you can select the class. It is one cooldown and usually the longest one.
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You want draught of souls and almost any other trinket over this trinket for unholy.
Where is MM? At the very end along with BM hunters right after them
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...pec=Windwalker
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...er&partition=2
I see serenity used on majority of the fights... oh wait
And even with the trinket, if you have legendary wrist you still won't use it
BM - https://puu.sh/tpOTN/863cbfa8ed.png
MM - https://puu.sh/tpOWz/6af680fc62.png
Azortharion trinkets sims
I don't know what you call a lot ahead, but 8k ahead of the guarm one for MM and 3k ahead of ursoc one for BM isn't A LOT to me
Nice try, but not
Around 9% upgrade A LOT less than rets, sorry.
Nope
No class come EVEN CLOSE to rets, I know that it sucks for your specs, but you have to just face it, sorry.
... Serenity becomes favoured on longer fights.. Aka in progression in mythic. Short fights means Serenity isn't favoured. And "8k" is alot when you compare it to the differences of other trinkets earlier on. Shits simmed differently, not all using the same set of numbers. The actual number doesn't matter as much as the difference between the trinkets overall.
But at the end of the day, I got a good giggle out of how salty and worked up you are over a trinket in a video game. Thanks for that
Serenity still wins out over 5 consistent targets as per Babs below:
"TLDR: Until you have Convergence of Fates, use Whirling Dragon Punch. After you have Convergence of Fates, use Whirling Dragon Punch if you have Drinking Horn Cover until more than 5 consistent targets, use Serenity above 5 targets or without Drinking Horn Cover."
EDIT: Digressed from topic to reduce the misinformation that gets spread.
Last edited by Alcapown; 2017-01-19 at 05:04 AM.
Nerfed for Ret Pallies, sadly, but the writing was on the wall.....just too strong.
Not the right approach to that. Now it's back to farming VotW for us... cause a certain other trinket that comes from a 5man dungeon outweights everything else.
Marvelous design, i gotta say.
They shouldn't have decreased it by a friggin' 70%... this is along the lines of "why didn't they just remove it from our loot-table; that would at least lessen the pain of not rolling a tier piece instead".
It was definitely too strong for Ret however 70% seems a bit extreme...
I'm not sure how it works with my Windwalker Monk, but on my Havoc DH it's pretty insane. Wondering if it'll be of any use at all on my Survival Hunter (I'd guess so, means more Eagle usage, which is always helpful)