Maine Governor Offers John Lewis an Erroneous History Lesson

[nebula]

Does the governor realize that the Republicans used to be the liberal party, but that the 2 parties switched sides in the 60s during the civil rights movement?

Did using Lincoln as a representative of the GOP hit Facebook recently or something? I've had so many people talk about all the shitty things Democrats did and how great the Republican party is...in a 1800s context. Like what? People don't seem to realize that in the time between Lincoln and FDR, party ideologies swapped.

[exriel]

There is something i don't understand about this story.

I don't even know how to phrase this question without having some twat jump down my throat.


What I am getting is essentially since this guy was a civil rights activist and has battle scars, he can just coast through the rest of his political career?

I ask this because all the rebuttals are like, "But civil rights, MLK!" or "His district is very successful (lets ignore the fact that the things it is successful for has nothing to do with his actions, decisions or guidance, but the things he is responsible for, while not the worst in the nation, are pretty bad).

I didn't read up on this from my usual places. This opinion was formed from reading various media articles about this situation.

Well, no, he shouldn't get to 'coast' on past accomplishments. Fortunately, that's not what is happening here, so it's not really relevant to the discussion.

[unbound]

My ignorance is based on the German wikipedia site which to me makes him one of Americans greatest heroes. I want to trust in that before in Americans who are against him and made Trump viable.

Ignore folks like flexilexi...conservatives have been going after John Lewis for decades. He has been a strong non-violent activist for many decades now, and conservatives have been annoyed with him the entire time with conservative "news" sites putting out hit articles for a long time. Most conservatives on MMO Champion just parrot out what they read from such sites.

[Skalm]

Is LePage trying to push the "republicans saved black people way back when so you should worship us, the current republican party, for what happened 100 years ago because we are totally the same these days" idea?

Is that like saying "My Great Great Gran Pappy was a slave, so you should put me on a pedestal, let me say any racist remarks without having any repercussions, lower standards for me so I can go to school (for free or severely reduced), give me money just because of my skin color, etc, etc, etc, because our lives are the same as they were 100 years ago?"

Give me a fucking break. Blacks are not owed a damn thing. You know the difference between a white persons skin and a black persons? One descended from people living out in the open in the sun with very little clothing (warm climate), and the other descended from people living in caves. People in caves wore more clothes (cold climate) so they did not need the skin pigment to protect them from the sun, so they had lighter skin. Same as when you find fish and shit at the bottom of the ocean where there is no light. They are white/clear. Because they do not need the protection from the UV Rays and such.

Yeah, it sucks that their ancestors were slaves but that's how the world worked back then (that is not how it is now in the U.S.). Should all whites that came from Europe be furious and ask for restitution because they descended from working slaves to the various Monarchies in the medieval times?

Many blacks create their own racism by acting the way they do now. They are purposefully trying to segregate themselves because they are too stupid to realize what they are doing. Asking for 'black only safe spaces and shit like that' is perpetuating racism by their own hands. They are wanting to be segregated from everyone else, which is exactly what MLK and many others fought against.

Many people want this 'segregation' because when you have people separate themselves they become more vulnerable and easier to control. So they push stupid bullshit in the media to rile people up, to keep them going and get them to victimize themselves and separate themselves into a smaller more manageable group.


It is however rather convenient though, when they are playing the slave/race card, that they leave out the part where many of their ancestors were already slaves to other African tribes and were sold as slaves to people coming to sell them in the U.S. and other places.

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Well, no, he shouldn't get to 'coast' on past accomplishments. Fortunately, that's not what is happening here, so it's not really relevant to the discussion.

But you can't deny that his skin color allows him certain 'accommodations' that someone of a different skin color would not get.

[LaserSharkDFB]

[drivel]

...yeah, this thread isn't long for this world. This shouldn't be a discussion about race, but people seem to want to turn it into one, so countdown to lock begins... now.

[Heladys]

But you can't deny that his skin color allows him certain 'accommodations' that someone of a different skin color would not get.

Well, that's certainly ironic.

[Anevers]

But you can't deny that his skin color allows him certain 'accommodations' that someone of a different skin color would not get.

Racial Profiling?

[callipygoustp]

But you can't deny that his skin color allows him certain 'accommodations' that someone of a different skin color would not get.

Are you talking about the white guy or the black guy here?

[Adam Jensen]

Embarrassed Mainer here. I didn't vote for LeTrump.

[Stormspellz]

There is something i don't understand about this story.

I don't even know how to phrase this question without having some twat jump down my throat.


What I am getting is essentially since this guy was a civil rights activist and has battle scars, he can just coast through the rest of his political career?

I ask this because all the rebuttals are like, "But civil rights, MLK!" or "His district is very successful (lets ignore the fact that the things it is successful for has nothing to do with his actions, decisions or guidance, but the things he is responsible for, while not the worst in the nation, are pretty bad).

I didn't read up on this from my usual places. This opinion was formed from reading various media articles about this situation.

He's actually been very active in his time in congress, including many minority/majority leader position on many hearings, committee's ect so i'm sure what exactly is "coasting" about that.

[Adam Jensen]

Is LePage trying to push the "republicans saved black people way back when so you should worship us, the current republican party, for what happened 100 years ago because we are totally the same these days" idea?

Yeah, they also love the flip side of that argument. "Democrats supported slavery 100 years ago, so modern Democrats today are the true racists!"

[s_bushido]

Did using Lincoln as a representative of the GOP hit Facebook recently or something?

No. Republican revisionist history isn't anything new.

[Adam Jensen]

No. Republican revisionist history isn't anything new.

They like pretending the Southern Strategy didn't happen.

As if it means anything either way, because neither of the modern parties are what they were ten years ago, much less 30-40, and definitely not 100+.

Democrats supported slavery in 1865? That's nice. It's 2017 now. Things changed.

[Dextroden]

They like pretending the Southern Strategy didn't happen.

As if it means anything either way, because neither of the modern parties are what they were ten years ago, much less 30-40, and definitely not 100+.

Democrats supported slavery in 1865? That's nice. It's 2017 now. Things changed.

For the sake of consistency, that would mean the Southern Strategy attempt would stop mattering since "Things Changed". As would things like segregation.

No one's going to ever let that grudge go.

[LaserSharkDFB]

For the sake of consistency, that would mean the Southern Strategy attempt would stop mattering since "Things Changed". As would things like segregation.

No one's going to ever let that grudge go.

Except that, obviously, some things have lasting effects. Things like segregation have a much deeper and broader impact than what party affiliation someone had 150 years ago.

[alexw]

Those coloreds are getting mighty uppity lately, huh?

We all knew it wasn't going to stop with them getting to drink from the whites only water fountain........

Now, now, they want to have political voices. Speaking out, protesting for equal police treatment, just wanting equality in general, that's racism against whites that is.

[Sky High]

Except that, obviously, some things have lasting effects. Things like segregation have a much deeper and broader impact than what party affiliation someone had 150 years ago.

on top of ignoring how the southern strategy was part of the political polarity shift.

[Dextroden]

Except that, obviously, some things have lasting effects. Things like segregation have a much deeper and broader impact than what party affiliation someone had 150 years ago.

"As if it means anything either way, because neither of the modern parties are what they were ten years ago, much less 30-40, and definitely not 100+."

Hence, why people need to stop shitting about segregation or this is some hypocritical nonsense.

[alexw]

Is that like saying "My Great Great Gran Pappy was a slave, so you should put me on a pedestal, let me say any racist remarks without having any repercussions, lower standards for me so I can go to school (for free or severely reduced), give me money just because of my skin color, etc, etc, etc, because our lives are the same as they were 100 years ago?"

Give me a fucking break. Blacks are not owed a damn thing. You know the difference between a white persons skin and a black persons? One descended from people living out in the open in the sun with very little clothing (warm climate), and the other descended from people living in caves. People in caves wore more clothes (cold climate) so they did not need the skin pigment to protect them from the sun, so they had lighter skin. Same as when you find fish and shit at the bottom of the ocean where there is no light. They are white/clear. Because they do not need the protection from the UV Rays and such.

Yeah, it sucks that their ancestors were slaves but that's how the world worked back then (that is not how it is now in the U.S.). Should all whites that came from Europe be furious and ask for restitution because they descended from working slaves to the various Monarchies in the medieval times?

Many blacks create their own racism by acting the way they do now. They are purposefully trying to segregate themselves because they are too stupid to realize what they are doing. Asking for 'black only safe spaces and shit like that' is perpetuating racism by their own hands. They are wanting to be segregated from everyone else, which is exactly what MLK and many others fought against.

Many people want this 'segregation' because when you have people separate themselves they become more vulnerable and easier to control. So they push stupid bullshit in the media to rile people up, to keep them going and get them to victimize themselves and separate themselves into a smaller more manageable group.


It is however rather convenient though, when they are playing the slave/race card, that they leave out the part where many of their ancestors were already slaves to other African tribes and were sold as slaves to people coming to sell them in the U.S. and other places.

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But you can't deny that his skin color allows him certain 'accommodations' that someone of a different skin color would not get.

Your rant reminds me oh so much of this...... because its oh so true.

[Sky High]

Hence, why people need to stop shitting about segregation.

lol, best of luck with that.