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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by prwraith View Post
    I honestly think trump is going to be the cause of a civil war. This guy is bringing out unheard of levels of hatred in everyone.
    What civil war? The Right has all the guns. It's going to be a war in the same sense you have a war with an ant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    There is a whole host of other reasons as to why he might have done this aside from "desperation". Especially given the country he is living in, I find it hard to be very sympathethic to him.
    He just expressed the ultimate form of Leftist sensationalism.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    He did, a self inflicted injury mind you. And intentional self inflicted injury.

    I am just saying I doubt this humanity showing would exist had it been someone less politically sympathetic to him, or you. I would have made the pun no matter what. This thread exists because I could make a pun. And to report a bizarre story.

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    Edgy? Shit what is your definition of edgy?
    I know it is difficult to imagine, but most people don't care about politics and political allegiances as much as you and some of the other posters in this thread do.

    Takes a shitty kind of person to try to justify their shitty behavior by saying if the tables were turned, people who be just as shitty as they are. Wonder what damaged you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    There is a whole host of other reasons as to why he might have done this aside from "desperation". Especially given the country he is living in, I find it hard to be very sympathethic to him.
    I have to agree. Life in America is so much better than most of the rest of the world that I can't see how you could be desperate enough to burn yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailswipe View Post
    I have to agree. Life in America is so much better than most of the rest of the world that I can't see how you could be desperate enough to burn yourself.
    It's all about perspective. They don't know anything else, so they cannot imagine anything worse.
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  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Officials have claimed they don’t know...
    Firetard part of the story aside, they could have opened and closed the news reports with that statement. Everything else is speculation...not news. Too bad our "news" folks these don't know the difference.

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    Those puns hurt me.


    In a kinda good - kinda bad kind of way.

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    That guy is obviously mentally ill. He is no protester. His political compass is completely irrelevant.

    What the fuck is wrong with you people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    That guy is obviously mentally ill. He is no protester. His political compass is completely irrelevant.

    What the fuck is wrong with you people?
    His protest was searing. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailswipe View Post
    I have to agree. Life in America is so much better than most of the rest of the world that I can't see how you could be desperate enough to burn yourself.
    No matter where you live, you can always find someone who lives better and someone who lives worse. This really isn't an argument. The "much better than most of the rest of the world" isn't that big of an achievement anyway, given that most countries on this planet are corrupt dictatorships with abysmal quality of life.
    Quote Originally Posted by King Candy View Post
    I can't explain it because I'm an idiot, and I have to live with that post for the rest of my life. Better to just smile and back away slowly. Ignore it so that it can go away.
    Thanks for the avatar goes to Carbot Animations and Sy.

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    "Laughing" at someone probably mentally ill setting himself on fire?

    Should we not lament that the US mental health care is inadequate?

    Or is that too much empathy this early in the day?
    No, you need to respect his right to self identify as a fireball. That's what we do with mental illness now when people imagine themselves to be something other than what they are right?

  11. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by ControlWarrior View Post
    It's all about perspective. They don't know anything else, so they cannot imagine anything worse.
    Pretty much this. The plight / state / living conditions of someone elsewhere in the world are completely irrelevant to your situation. It really does not matter if there are people dying by the thousands in conditions approaching hell on earth in North Korea, because they have absolutely no bearing on someone elses situation halfway around the world in a completely different country.

    Trying to say that he had no valid reason to light himself on fire as a form of protest because "person x somewhere else may be worse off then he is" is attempting to create a false equivalency. By that logic, that Monk that burned himself to death was just as stupid because there was probably someone else, in some African or South American shithole suffering worse then his people were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    No, you need to respect his right to self identify as a fireball. That's what we do with mental illness now when people imagine themselves to be something other than what they are right?
    I do respect his potential right to self identify as a fireball just as i respect peoples right to self identify as a multiple amputee. In both cases i do however think that preventing their self injury or treating their desire to inflict selfinjury in order to achieve said self image should be done

    Edit: Actually i do not respect either right.

    Edit2: Actually the post you replied to was meant different than expressed. I do not mind people laughing but i do think they should also consider the potential underlying issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    to be fair conservatives/right wingers who aren't complete idiots are upset.

    Maybe you guys dont quite understand the seriousness of someone completely unqualified (and his cohorts) running one of the largest nations on earth.
    I see Trump as a potential boon on the path to world socialism

    As a socialist i approve of Donald Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    Well as long as it's not your blood being spilled eh.
    In this case it will be noones blood spilled but rather an excersize in impotent raging and rambling on twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    to be fair conservatives/right wingers who aren't complete idiots are upset.

    Maybe you guys dont quite understand the seriousness of someone completely unqualified (and his cohorts) running one of the largest nations on earth.
    Should be an interesting 4 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    ah yeah deporting people has always been a very calm and peaceful process.
    Keeping people as illegals is a way of ensuring you can pay them subpar wages and offer horrible conditions with threats and screaming. One way or another that mess should end

    Trump however will not end that mess. He will just help keep the pressure on illegal workers to take lower wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    to be fair conservatives/right wingers who aren't complete idiots are upset.
    You mean neocons who put the exact same policies in place and are owned by the same corporation as the people who took over the Democratic Party and most of the Left are upset because an outsider came in and ruined their cushy throwing the ball back and forth while laughing at people across the spectrum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    I see Trump as a potential boon on the path to world socialism
    Socialism and all it entails and where it leads is about as dead as it's polar opposite and for good reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    ah yeah deporting people has always been a very calm and peaceful process.
    "Jailing criminals has always been a very calm and peaceful process."
    "Enforcing laws has always been a very calm and peaceful process."
    etc.

    It actually is. If the people who are in said country do not resist being deported. If it becomes violent it usually because of those being deported and not because the process itself is inherently violent or unjust. Even where the non aggression principle is concerned, they were the ones who initiated force to begin with when they forced entry into a country they had no right to enter and forcefully etablished themselves in said country. Which doesn't even include actions they undertook after the fact.

  18. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by xcureanddisease View Post
    What is wrong with me is LIVE AND LET LIVE. Got it from my grandmother. Allow me to provide some mitigation:

    My grandfather was a chain smoker. Camel unfiltered. Got lung cancer because of it and died. They were married for 52 years.

    In 1997 my grandmother was offered a pretty decent amount of money because of some law suit(cant recall what exactly) and you know what she said? NO! Not taking anything from the choices my husband made. He decided to smoke, and he died. End of story.

    Has our entire family given my grandmother shit over refusing free cash? Sure. But at the end of the day she's right.

    Point is, if I see someone with diabetes chugging down a jar of Rocky Road, ill just sit back and watch. If I see someone jumping out of a skyscraper, ill grab my popcorn. If I see someone set themselves on fire over an election, ill grab a chair and smile.

    Its not that I dont have any regard for human life, I really do. But I only do for people who give a shit enough about themselves to want to try a little. Those going out of their way to try to kill themselves should be allowed to do whatever their little hearts desire.
    Your Grandmother sounds exceptionally cool. I won't lie, I don't think I would have avoided taking the money even if I agree with her perspective. Could be her financial situation or her principles; either way awesome on her part.

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    More like this and the future looks bright.

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    As for people trying to be serious, I do question if it had been a Trump supporter setting themselves on fire after a post Hillary win, someone else would have posted this same thread. Alas I lack a crystal ball or divine power to know, but had a Bernie voter done this post Hillary's win, I suspect @Skroe would even sing a different tune.

    My point being, the level of hilariousness of the pun I used depends on how deeply butthurt one is that Trump is about to be the President. You could say the anger is seething, smoldering, .... some people are really feeling the burn.
    If that is what you think about my position, you have completely missed the point of an entire year of posting on my part.

    I want what I want politically because I believe it helps the most people at the most efficiency. These policies that we are all arguing over are about in the end, making for a better country for us and our children. You think I want misery, pain and death upon Trump supporters? I have and continue to want to beat them politically. I want them to understand why they were wrong to believe what they believe. But that's it. As Obama put it, it's intramural. In every other way, I want nothing but the best for them.

    This is not abstract. I live this. My best friend in the entire world... someone who is like a brother to me and who I would do anything in the world for, is an ardent Trump supporter. A healthy percentage of my friends are. Others were Bernie Sanders supporters. I strenously disagree with their positions and I think they are badly informed about Donald Trump's agenda. I have occasionally told them as much. But that's... nothing... compared to the importance of their friendship to me. We don't have to agree on everything.

    I have long stated that I understood why many people voted for Trump, and why many people supported Bernie Sanders. I think they're wrong and will come to regret it, but they have the freedom to be wrong. I got no problem with the vast majority of Trump supporters who are decent, hardworking Americans who are angered, rightly or wrongly, by our changing country and changing world and see Trump as an agent of restoration. This was not the first nor the last time "Take America Back" worked in an election. There is a reason why it continues to work. It resonates powerfully.

    I DO have an issue with Trump supporters and Bernie supporters who wage kamakazi campaigns against this country's future and politics, because they're mad. But that is a small minority of supporters. Even them I would NEVER want die. I would never amuse myself at their physical suffering.

    The fact that you think that I would tells me just how far off the reservation you are Theo. We're nothing alike.No offense, but you're something of a fanatic. You've only doubled down on the absurdity of your rhetoric here rather than do the honorable thing and just admit "eh, I said something shitty." Because you know what? We all do. Nobody's record is clean. We all say things we don't mean because we're mad.

    But you had your chance, and here you are, trying to say "well if it were Skroe and Bernie, he'd say it to them." Fuck no man. Life is precious. Americans are all one family. Trump and Bernie supporters are my brothers and sisters, even if I think they've been spending the past 18 months doing remarkably stupid things.

    So I'll say it again: you should be ashamed of yourself. Your fellow Americans who suffer, for any reason at all, are deserving of compassion, not snide remarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    Skroe, once again the voice of reason among conservative posters.

    I've been saying this about the crazy anti-SJWs for awhile. The activism that they're so utterly terrified of is extremely limited to very certain geographic areas (campuses). But because of the constant inundation and being slapped in the face 24/7 by news of their deeds, people go absolutely insane over it.

    Just take a look at Theo. She's a grad student, and her entire perception of the left is based off of the social activists at her college. And she's not even the most hysterical when it comes to distorted world views of the left.
    You know what though? I appreciate the compliment, but it shouldn't be necessary. There is nothing wrong with vitriolic disagreement. But the second it comes down to a person's life? What kind of callous, hateful people think that their fellow citizens who they disagree with getting hurt for any reason is OK in order to teach them a lesson. Do they not understand at the very least, that the shoe could be on the other foot in a flash? Or that they feel pain, have families, and have legitimate wants just as they? Political violence, including self-inflicted political violence, is unacceptable.

    I'm an atheist. But the behavior of many people in this thread makes an excellent case for what happens when society loses a sense of christian mercy and christian charity. It's a bunch of stupid kids acting like a bunch of wild animals. And we call this "progress".

    These people reflect bad parenting, bad upbringing and a society that has lost a sense of brotherhood and where compromise has become a dirty world.

    In the end, we all lose.

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