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    What kind of punishment do you get for slaugthering a little baby like that in Austalia?

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    Strap him naked to a donkey and turn it loose out into the outback, Mad Max style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tram View Post
    What kind of punishment do you get for slaugthering a little baby like that in Austalia?
    Living the rest of your life in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    Living the rest of your life in prison.
    Good and i know how much they hate ppl that hurt children in jail so he will have a hellish time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    This is like trying to argue that we should ban food because sometimes people choke on it. Seems pretty silly, don't you think?

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    If you don't live in a city with at least 500,000 people, you probably don't even have public transportation.
    Walk, horse and carriage etc there is other ways to get around, keeping trains and planes for long rides would be enough, then again we have become pretty damn lazy. People traveled thousand of miles before without those luxuries im pretty sure we could again, not that we even would need to though. just saying it would be possible to live again without those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    Yeah if you want to regress all of society. Like seriously you can't actually believe this bullshit. People have jobs that can be an hour commute. That's 30-50 miles away. You really think any of those methods are feasible for them to even travel to work?
    It would be funny to watch society go to shit because of a simple thing like no cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    Just goes to show you that even in countries with super strict gun laws, people will still find a way to kill other people.

    When will people learn it's not a gun problem, but a people problem?
    Nobody denied that people were the problem.

    But it's really really really stupid to argue that making guns extremely easy to access in no way exacerbates a lot of situations that would have otherwise ended if far less to no deaths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    Not mass public transportation though. There's no public buses driving around in a town with a few ten thousand people, depending on population density. It's economically inefficient to have buses run in a low dense population.

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    How is that a simple thing exactly? It's a huge part of everyday life, people's careers, entertainment, etc.
    There lives 18 k people in my town and we have alot of busses and trains as do all of sweden no matter how small of a town. Well not trains but busses.

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    Turns out the guy "was known to police", history of violence. Stabbed his brother in the morning, had a female hostage in the car until she escaped, did wheelies in the middle of the city and then he mowed the people down.

    Basically, violent asshole criminal having some kind of breakdown.

    And in case anyone's still holding out hope, Vic police confirmed it's not terrorism related.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/vict...d7bb27f7a1bf1f

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    Melbourne is the crime capital of Australia.
    I see you know about as much about your own country as you do the rest of the world.

    IT IS known for its unique landscape, laid-back larrikin lifestyle and being home to one of Australia’s most iconic landmarks, Uluru.
    But the Northern Territory also has a less appealing distinction — being the homicide capital of Australia.
    Statistics from the Australian Institute of Criminology show the Top End has had the highest homicide rate for the past decade - and here’s why.
    Beneath the aesthetics are pockets of extreme poverty, homelessness, alcohol-fuelled violence and family violence — all of which, experts say, contribute to the territory’s high rate of murder and manslaughter.
    According to the latest AIC figures, the homicide rate for the NT was 5.5 per 100,000 people. This is five times the national rate and almost four times the second highest state, Western Australia, which had a homicide rate of 1.4 per 100,000.
    News.com.au examined 10 years of data from the institute’s National Homicide Monitoring Program and found the NT consistently had a higher rate for murder and manslaughter than anywhere else in Australia. In 2001-02, the NT’s rate was almost six times higher than the national average, 11.5 compared to 1.9. By 2011-12 it had improved significantly to 5.5, but was still higher than the rest of the country.
    http://www.news.com.au/national/crim...7a338e01271325

    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    Just goes to show you that even in countries with super strict gun laws, people will still find a way to kill other people.
    We have about a quarter your homicide rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nakloh View Post
    LUL what a savage. And people are falling for it hook, line and sinker.
    This guy is apparently a Senator for the Lib Dems, a party most Australians would be surprised to learn exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    In Europe there is public transportation pretty much everywhere, even in smaller cities.
    I've lived in Melbourne for almost 20 years and don't even have a driver's license. You really don't need one here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    So we should ban cars too then? Because they are super easy to use/steal and can allow someone to kill other people just as easily as a gun. Because that's the logic you're going for here.
    Lmao, I'm not going to get into the cars kill people argument just so you can avoid the question. Answer it, can you honestly say that if it truly is the people; should we have such easy access to firearms? Mind you, I never once said anything about banning them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Public transportations would be enough, i have never owned a car and makes do fine with trains and busses only. Think we would do just fine + we could remove alot of ugly roads and shit.
    How do you propose people in the countryside get about, where public transport isn't as freely available as it is in cities ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerWolf View Post
    How do you propose people in the countryside get about, where public transport isn't as freely available as it is in cities ?
    Busses like we have here, horses maby

    Sure you may need to walk a kilometer to the buss but it's there. Ride bike to the buss perhaps there is many options here.

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    Just want to add that if there where no cars they would obviously put alot more buss stops around even in the country sides.
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    they are not telling the truth it was a radicalized young muslim

    infracted - trolling

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    @Crissi infracted for not a legit reason go check the local news there where it happend. Mods and abusing their powers these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormiNL View Post
    they are not telling the truth it was a radicalized young muslim

    infracted - trolling

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    @Crissi infracted for not a legit reason go check the local news there where it happend. Mods and abusing their powers these days
    I live in Melbourne. I was watching the local news right after it happened. You're full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    Living the rest of your life in prison.
    You mean thirty years, right?

    Because that's a life sentence in Australia. Our court system is a joke mate.

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    There is no way this is real. It has to be fake news. How can there be a shoot out. Everyone knows Australia took the Public's guns away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr Storm View Post
    So we should ban cars too then? Because they are super easy to use/steal and can allow someone to kill other people just as easily as a gun. Because that's the logic you're going for here.
    Except cars have a practical purpose that majority of adults make use of every day. Guns are pretty much a hobby/sport. The self-defense purpose of the gun is counterintuitive when countries like AU have lower homicide rates without firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noogai131 View Post
    You mean thirty years, right?

    Because that's a life sentence in Australia. Our court system is a joke mate.
    https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.go...s/imprisonment

    In Victoria, only the Supreme Court can impose a sentence of life imprisonment.

    A term of life imprisonment means imprisonment for the duration of an offender’s natural life. However, courts can set a non-parole period, after which the offender may apply to be released from prison on parole. A person will remain under sentence even after release from prison on parole if he or she received a term of life imprisonment.

    A court may refuse to set a non-parole period if it considers the nature of the offence or the past history of the offender makes setting a non-parole period inappropriate. In Victoria, a sentence of life imprisonment without parole means the offender will remain in prison until he or she dies.
    Looks like he'll rot till he dies.



    Quote Originally Posted by Skalm View Post
    There is no way this is real. It has to be fake news. How can there be a shoot out. Everyone knows Australia took the Public's guns away.
    1. Only the police were shooting in this incident.
    2. People can still get gun licences and own firearms, most people just don't bother.
    3. There are still some illegal weapons in circulation that are mostly used in organised crime for gang-on-gang violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    People lived tens of thousands of years without cars just fine. It wouldn't just help with things such as this but also help with nature preservation efforts and global warming. Why do you hate nature?
    That's why I wrote "our society", as in our current society. We also lived without electricity for thousands or years, do you think our society would work if we banned that as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.go...s/imprisonment
    1. Only the police were shooting in this incident.
    2. People can still get gun licences and own firearms, most people just don't bother.
    3. There are still some illegal weapons in circulation that are mostly used in organised crime for gang-on-gang violence.
    1. Didn't the article say there was a shoot out? For there to be a shoot out, both sides have to be shooting.
    2. Don't the guns have to be kept at a Shooting Club, where you have to check the guns in and out? (Can't have one at your house)? Exception being ranchers that have them for predators and the likes?
    3. Who would have thought. A law that makes owning guns essentially illegal and requires you to turn them in, does not stop criminals from having them.

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