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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Punching Nazis is a god damn American tradition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mettaton View Post
    People are sympathising with this nazi? That's pathetic. Spencer got what he deserved.
    No, not really. People are explaining their line of thought in not agreeing or approving of it. Pretty shitty that you ignore people's own explanations and instead presume they're just trying to sympathize with or defend a Nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    These are the same people who are seriously bewildered to why they're being called nazis.

    Bet you didn't see that coming.
    Considering @Boomzy isn't even particularly right wing if memory serves me right, I'd say he has plenty of reasons to be bewildered by being called a Nazi. Where did you even see him being called a Nazi? And what happened to your amazing impartiality? To quote fascinating recent storytelling from you: "These people can't ever seem to point to where I actually support the crazy antics of these college kids, they just think I'm an SJW feminist piece of trash because I dare to point out how ridiculous they act and how triggered they get." Swap political alignments around and damn, impariality would have dictated that there's a possibility you're not a unique special snowflake and that Boomzy was doing a similar thing and wasn't just being, to paraphrase, "an alt-right Nazi piece of trash". But nope, not what happened here. I'm shocked, I tell you.
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    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemishunter1 View Post
    its not the minorities. Tax rates are not set by them. Its set up WHITE liberals who use the minorities are support bases, while implementing policies that benefit them at the expance of native population. Its what you get when you IMPORT poor people from cultures that have no concept of personal responsibility and duty. and yes, minorities are going to remain poor forever. Thats what their masters want. Poor people are not idealistic. They are always need driven. Poor people will worship LORD LUCIFER himself, he grants them welfare, because that what they need immediately to survive, idealism like freedom of speech is higher order need.
    Wait native population so now white people are the native population. Not the you know NATIVE AMERICANS forced out of their lands onto barren reservations that even to this day we screw them out of. How about the minorities that have lived here just as long as your "native" people. Oh no to you the only ones that matter are white people. There is no master race white people are not better then any other race and are just as equally stupid, violent, etc... people like you call every other race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Where is the generation we don't have to lock up?

    Crime statistics don't really back you up lad...
    ?????

    I never said a generation. I said a bucket load of people and that is true. There is currently ~2.5M in prison and ~5M on probation or parole, halving that would certainly count as a bucket load.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    I said you can understand why it happens. That does not mean not treating the actions as a crime. Understanding means taking actions to treat the underlying causes (reduce income inequality, tackle systemic racism, invest into the woefully underfunded schools in poor communities, etc, etc, etc) so that there is less criminals in the first place who you now have to lock up.

    Everyone in society ends up benefiting - In the next generation you now have a bucket load of productive people who you don't have to pay to lock up, and who become net contributors rather than a net drain.

    But of course racists like you don't care about things like that. I already know what you think on this issue given your posting history here. You think white genocide is occurring and that tells me all I need to know about you.
    "Give poor people money so they don't beat you up or rape you" lol..... sounds like you are the one that thinks less of minorities, because you have such low expectations from them compared to white people.

    Also, giving people money doesn't necessarily help them in many cases aside from giving them stuff to buy that may not actually better them. Hence for example, why so many lottery winners end up going bankrupt. On the flip side you are actually taking money from people that made good decisions with their lives and redistributing it to people who often made bad ones, not discouraging them from making more bad decisions in the process.

    As for tackling systemic racism, are you suggesting we remove affirmative action? Also in many poor communities, the schools are often receive more funding than better communities but still do not improve, Detroit for example gets a massive amount of federal funding yet the schools are still in disrepair. This suggests that the answer lies within the family, as opposed to the school or government.

    It's not racist to be aware of this stuff either, rather it just goes to show that in many ways the government does not help and in some cases can hurt how people, especially in the lowest bracket can live. If you get people hooked on welfare, it's often hard to get them off, most people in their right mind aren't going to turn down free money for essentially not working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    If you get people hooked on welfare, it's often hard to get them off, most people in their right mind aren't going to turn down free money for essentially not working.
    You have no idea of what you're talking about.
    Living in poverty sucks. The sheer misery is all the encouragement to get the hell out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    "Give poor people money so they don't beat you up or rape you" lol..... sounds like you are the one that thinks less of minorities, because you have such low expectations from them compared to white people.

    Also, giving people money doesn't necessarily help them in many cases aside from giving them stuff to buy that may not actually better them. Hence for example, why so many lottery winners end up going bankrupt. On the flip side you are actually taking money from people that made good decisions with their lives and redistributing it to people who often made bad ones, not discouraging them from making more bad decisions in the process.

    As for tackling systemic racism, are you suggesting we remove affirmative action? Also in many poor communities, the schools are often receive more funding than better communities but still do not improve, Detroit for example gets a massive amount of federal funding yet the schools are still in disrepair. This suggests that the answer lies within the family, as opposed to the school or government.

    It's not racist to be aware of this stuff either, rather it just goes to show that in many ways the government does not help and in some cases can hurt how people, especially in the lowest bracket can live. If you get people hooked on welfare, it's often hard to get them off, most people in their right mind aren't going to turn down free money for essentially not working.
    Lottery winners face a lot of pressures due to that money. Friends, family, even enemies that will try their best to coerce or even sue them out of their winnings. Add in the fact that most of them came from poverty and it's understandable.

    However, I think you're way off the mark with welfare. Welfare does not make people lazy. Most people DO want to be useful and do something with their lives. Yes, you get some lazy people, it's true, but they're the exception, not the norm.

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    From this thread, it is clearly ok to punch people in the face if they hurt your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashjack View Post
    From this thread, it is clearly ok to punch people in the face if they hurt your feelings.
    If they advocate mass murder, yes, it's pretty ok to punch them.

    It worked for the 43 group, it can work now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    If they advocate mass murder, yes, it's pretty ok to punch them.

    It worked for the 43 group, it can work now.
    By the logic in this thread, what the country needs are some violent right wing groups going out on the streets and fighting with the violent left wing groups. All those people who were so worried about Trump supporters being violent when he inevitably lost the election, are now encouraging riots and violence in the streets.

    And what you idiots don't realize is that the image of Spencer being punched by a rioter is going to make massive numbers of people more sympathetic to him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    If they advocate mass murder, yes, it's pretty ok to punch them.

    It worked for the 43 group, it can work now.
    People get punched for hitting on someone else's significant other, so I feel like those advocating the murder of millions should be somewhere on the scale of "people okay to punch".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    By the logic in this thread, what the country needs are some violent right wing groups going out on the streets and fighting with the violent left wing groups. All those people who were so worried about Trump supporters being violent when he inevitably lost the election, are now encouraging riots and violence in the streets.

    And what you idiots don't realize is that the image of Spencer being punched by a rioter is going to make massive numbers of people more sympathetic to him
    If people will be more sympathetic to someone pushing the murder of millions of innocents just cause he got punched, this country is doomed. Someone punching hitler would not make me more sympathetic to hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    "Give poor people money so they don't beat you up or rape you" lol..... sounds like you are the one that thinks less of minorities, because you have such low expectations from them compared to white people.

    Also, giving people money doesn't necessarily help them in many cases aside from giving them stuff to buy that may not actually better them. Hence for example, why so many lottery winners end up going bankrupt. On the flip side you are actually taking money from people that made good decisions with their lives and redistributing it to people who often made bad ones, not discouraging them from making more bad decisions in the process.

    As for tackling systemic racism, are you suggesting we remove affirmative action? Also in many poor communities, the schools are often receive more funding than better communities but still do not improve, Detroit for example gets a massive amount of federal funding yet the schools are still in disrepair. This suggests that the answer lies within the family, as opposed to the school or government.

    It's not racist to be aware of this stuff either, rather it just goes to show that in many ways the government does not help and in some cases can hurt how people, especially in the lowest bracket can live. If you get people hooked on welfare, it's often hard to get them off, most people in their right mind aren't going to turn down free money for essentially not working.
    Yup just what I expect from you. The usual idiotic right-wing bullcrap that shows just how clueless you are on complex issues such as this. I mean do you understand even the basics of inter-generational poverty and its causes and consequent effects? No of course you don't.

    There is a thing called return on investment. You spend money to make money. As a nation that means investing into communities to make them productive parts of the whole. Its a win win for all concerned. It raises not just their standard of living but your own also. But of course being a right-wing racist you care about none of that, nor do you understand any of it. All you see is "free stuff" for minorities and start raving. Of course this also explains why the republican dominated states that follow your beliefs and don't invest are so poor compared to the blue states. They also see it as "free stuff" for minorities rather than an investment that will pay itself back many-fold over the decades to come. Ergo they stay poor. You stay poor.

    I suggest you look into the data and statistics on all this if you actually want to understand any of it because by your comments you obviously currently don't.

    As for tackling systemic racism there is plenty of it about which again backed up by lots of hard data. Oh and FYI schools in poor communities on average receive far less funding than those in richer communities. My mind boggles that you somehow believe the opposite is true.

    Just between poor and average school districts the difference is 16% less, never mind that between poor and wealthy school districts. This despite the fact that poor districts need more funds than wealthy ones do to bring the students up to scratch, and that there is a far greater educational return in terms of outcomes for each dollar spent by spending it on poor schools as opposed to rich ones (eg having computers at all has a far greater impact than replacing ones that are 4 years old).

    I could go on and on. But I think you get the point. As I said go look up the actual evidence and data instead of relying on your right wing beliefs as if those reflect real reality. Because they simply don't. You could start by looking into all those supposed well-funded detroit schools -

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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Well...as much as he deserves that beatdown, the person who did it also deserves repercussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    Well...as much as he deserves that beatdown, the person who did it also deserves repercussions.
    Yeah pretty much. I'd file this under Punched a guy advocated 'peaceful ethnic cleansing', took a night in jail, worth it.


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    Always fight fascism, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    If they advocate mass murder, yes, it's pretty ok to punch them.

    It worked for the 43 group, it can work now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Algy View Post
    People get punched for hitting on someone else's significant other, so I feel like those advocating the murder of millions should be somewhere on the scale of "people okay to punch".

    If people will be more sympathetic to someone pushing the murder of millions of innocents just cause he got punched, this country is doomed. Someone punching hitler would not make me more sympathetic to hitler.
    Can someone quote Spencer advocating murder somewhere? I haven't seen it. That (obviously) doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it'd be nice to see it rather than just assuming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Incitting violence is not a 'thought'.
    i'd ask you to provide proof on spencer calling for violence....but we both know it doesnt exist

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    You could start by looking into all those supposed well-funded detroit schools
    From the data I can find (one example), Detroit seems to spend between $13K-$18K/student (I'm not entirely clear on the exact amount, seems to be some odd accounting, but everyone seems to agree it's above $13K/year).

    How much do you figure would be required to provide a reasonable education level? From the above links, it seems like a bunch of places with pretty decent schools spend a lot less than that and seem to do OK. I'm not particularly convinced that going from $13K (or $18K) to $20K does much other than get money "lost" to some grifter somewhere. I think your picture of decay is pretty consistent with that impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Can someone quote Spencer advocating murder somewhere? I haven't seen it. That (obviously) doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it'd be nice to see it rather than just assuming.
    In 2012, Alternative Right [the website Spencer founded and controlled] published an article entitled "Is Black Genocide Right?"[8] It stated that the black race "has contributed almost nothing to the pool of civilization" and asked "whether Black Genocide is something worth considering"; after drawing widespread criticism, the article was deleted from the site.[9]

    I'm comfortable with him getting clocked.

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