Well yeah. That's why I haven't really objected to people calling Spencer a Nazi. If someone enjoys heiling and white supremacy, it's close enough for me. Likewise, slapping a dipshit with a Che Guevera shirt is on a pretty similar moral plane.
While I agree with you in a general sense, this is not a hot war. This is a war of ideas. Engaging in violence against these people just lends strength to their ideas.
Instead of punching them in righteous indignation, we need to do some kind of combination of debating them and laughing at them. The only way to win a war of ideas is to discredit your opponent.
I fucking hate the alt-right and I want to see them destroyed. I think random acts of violence is a losing strategy.
Hell of a hook right there.
I agree with you, which is why it requires a light touch. You debate only among crowds that already see the alt-right as legitimate. In all other scenes you treat them like a laughingstock.
Violence is directly counterproductive, because that gives them ammunition to use to bring fence sitters over to their side.
I really hate the alt-right and want to see their ideology vanish and become weaker than it is now. But the alt-right is growing, because the left is fucking incapable of not getting angry. This is quite literally a battle that must be fought with memes, and the left can't meme for shit. I wish I wasn't serious, but I am.
I welcome this violence and the divisiveness it creates. Every dumbfuck who riots on camera or assaults an innocent bystander will push people more to the right.
I know they're Nazis. I don't want Nazism to grow within the US. But it is growing, because the current tactics people are using to combat the alt-right are not fucking working. Don't you understand that they're winning right now? They just helped meme someone into the White House.
You can say that the fence sitters are the problem all you want, but people are malleable and ideology is a powerful weapon. If you don't want more alt-righters you cannot ignore these people.
Anyways, my raid is starting. I'll respond more in a few hours.
Nice, clean hit. Wapow!
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We both know that the term "nazi" is being thrown around far too casually. I'd be surprised if there's any actual honest-to-God nazis here at all and not just fetishists and trolls.
And even if there was, so fucking what? Every asshole deserves a platform to preach their brand of stupid, as long as no laws are broken. You disagreeing with it doesn't change that fact.
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Richard Spencer should have known better. He was just wearing too short a skirt.
He has free speech, even to spout idiotic things like he does. His attacker doesn't have the freedom to assault people he disagreed with. In the free marketplace of ideas he can preach his hateful garbage and people will see him for what he is and ignore him. Attacking him like this gets him more support, not less.
Oh yeah, we're just going to "peacefully" force everyone you don't like to leave the country
that's totally gonna work and leave everyone satisfied
yep