Nazis were right wing, not left

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Why the aryan mentality means us vs them and not a huge we ? Also lol about the gassing

[mmolurker]

That's the problem, this is not about your opinion, it's about historical realities and how politics were definied for centuries now.

well are we on a forum and is this thread a place for people to discuss their opinions and ideas? i am stating my opinion and arguments, you could ignore them, accept them, or reject them. it has nothing to do what's defined.
historical realities are national socialism and communism fought each other in wwii, national socialism was defeated by the allied forces, communism failed after and only few communist states remain. i wouldn't even consider china as a communist country, the reason of its rise is not because of communism but rather its capitalistic policies in deng's era.
the important thing is to think for yourself, and not just copy what is written by other peopl
welfare equality IS equality in outcomes and left wing.

[draynay]

And how exactly is fascism exclusive to the right? Yes, "National socialism" does have the word "socialism" in it and is thus left wing. The mental gymnasitcs required to not see this truly amazes me

Your entire understanding on the subject is defined by, and limited by, a single word. When anyone tries to look beyond the surface you call it "mental gymnastics". It is remarkable.

Why the aryan mentality means us vs them and not a huge we ? Also lol about the gassing

Because it is the opposite. The opposite of a thing can't be the same as the thing, that is what opposite means.

Honestly you're asking me the difference between these two attitudes

"We are all great"

-or-

"We are greater than those people, so we should segregate them, label them, keep them from breeding, and kill them."

[mmolurker]

Classical liberalism still defines European politics.

european politics is classical liberalism? europe is a socialist experiment in creating a super government. how can you say its classical liberalism when the EU is a direct counter to classical liberal ideas of small governments and freedom of individuals.
if you look at what the government has grown into in both america and europe, it is clear none of them follow classical liberal ideas.

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Why would you care what some imigrants think if you can unite your country . Nazism and unity doesnt work in usa because you dont have a race identity , 2 civil wars and counting

[JohnBrown1917]

no i live in this world. classical liberalism is dead and right wing is dead. what the republican party we have now is not a right wing party but rather the same corporatism and crony capitalism.

Yes, that is what we'd refer to as the far right.
The right is not a single ideology, if anything, the US barely has a left wing, outside of people like Bernie,

[LowarST]

Speaking of Bernie. Beware the socialist with 3 homes.

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Nazis were right wing, far right.

Even as a right winger I don't have any issue with saying that, there are untold factions within the right, I am not a Nazi and their politics was very different from mine. I care as much about that as people like Osama Bin Laden and Piers Morgan being Arsenal fans, their evil does not reflect on me just because we have something in common.

Especially considering that the average leftist has a lot more in common with Stalinists than the average right winger has with Nazis.

[mittacc]

Your entire understanding on the subject is defined by, and limited by, a single word. When anyone tries to look beyond the surface you call it "mental gymnastics". It is remarkable.

Hold on a second here! Do or don't you understand what a definiton of a word is? You can't just ignore certain notations when it's convinient for you. The nazi party was called "the National Socialist German Workers' Party". How can you argue that this wasn't a leftist party? Come on... "look beyond the surface blabla", how about using terms correctly for once? I know you guys like to ignore empirical data and such but wow...

This guy also tires to spin that fascism is somehow exclusive to the right which is just mental...

[JohnBrown1917]

Hold on a second here! Do or don't you understand what a definiton of a word is? You can't just ignore certain notations when it's convinient for you. The nazi party was called "the National Socialist German Workers' Party". How can you argue that this wasn't a leftist party? Come on... "look beyond the surface blabla", how about using terms correctly for once? I know you guys like to ignore empirical data and such but wow...

This guy also tires to spin that fascism is somehow exclusive to the right which is just mental...

So I take that North Korea is also democratic?

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Especially considering that the average leftist has a lot more in common with Stalinists than the average right winger has with Nazis.

Always gotta make up shit to put down people you disagree with, eh?

[Slybak]

Lincoln was a Republican, just like Fredrick Douglas and MLK

#EPICFail

In other words, the only good Republican is a dead Republican?

[JohnBrown1917]

Speaking of Bernie. Beware the socialist with 3 homes.

Good thing he is not a socialist.

[Super Kami Dende]

Pot calling the kettle black.

Which would make sense if I didn't criticise both sides.

[draynay]

Hold on a second here! Do or don't you understand what a definiton of a word is? You can't just ignore certain notations when it's convinient for you. The nazi party was called "the National Socialist German Workers' Party". How can you argue that this wasn't a leftist party? Come on... "look beyond the surface blabla", how about using terms correctly for once? I know you guys like to ignore empirical data and such but wow...

This guy also tires to spin that fascism is somehow exclusive to the right which is just mental...

I haven't made any references to fascism in this thread, though it is, by definition, a right-wing concept. I'm not terribly interested in discussing it as it was an Italian policy and we're talking about Nazis.

My previous comment regarding having "socialist" in the name in order to garner votes:

If you were to think they were Leftist because they have "socialist" in their name, then you are as gullible as the fools who voted them into power.

[Orbitus]

The average IQ in the country is no different than one would expect based on demographic makeup. What are you referring to?

I am referring to retarded Trump followers that keep trying to retell history because they were caught in lies. Or the Bizarro world we live in where a guy gets away with things he blamed the opposition for and his followers love it. I mean Pay for Play? Anyone? I know a lot of Trump voters on here lambasted Hillary for SUPPOSEDLY doing it, even though she didn't, while Donald ACTUALLY did it.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Hypocrisy isn't the point of my comment. It's more of an issue of irony. The typical leftist who is going out of their damn minds attempting to pointing out how terrible everything is (here) are the same people who are completely open to ignoring actual problems in areas which are stricken by a serious reality that they love to claim exists here. It's the same reason why I hate the concept of how "mass shooting" is applied here. It drastically diminishes something like when ISIS goes out and lines up 1000 people and executes them as that is lumped into a "mass shooting." The consistent push to identify everything as "sexist" or "racist" or "hateful" completely diminishes actual examples of those concepts. Again, yelling that looking at you is "rape" is actually diminishing of an actual rape victims experience.

I like how Sam Harris sorts of put it. The next time a SJW goes on a rant, ask them to pull out their iPhone. When they do, look at it, look back at them, and then tell them to shut the fuck up.

Please ignore these "leftists" that you view as a problem. After all, there are real problems in the world but you people keep whining about durn lefties. Whining about leftists diminishes the problems of real conservatives.

"You can't have problems in your life because someone somewhere else is suffering more than you are" has always been a hilariously bad excuse to dismiss someone's problems.

[LowarST]

Good thing he is not a socialist.

Beware the "Democratic Socialist" with 3 homes.

[Orbitus]

Actually that was an early German attempt at advertising in English:

While funny, sorry it doesn't add to the conversation lol.

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National Socialists.

Really warms the ol' thinking meat.

Democratic People's Republic of Korea <<<<<<< This is the name of NORTH KOREA. National Socialist means fuck all when Nazis openly opposed socialism and communism and openly fucking killed them. We KNOW that North Korea isn't a Republic or Democratic. They are a dictatorship. You might need to rewarm your "thinking meat", its getting cold.

[Cthulhu 2020]

"NATIONAL SOCIALISTS GUYS"

So wait, if we're going to ignore EVERYTHING in history and go simply by name...

Nationalists are far right, but socialists are moderate left, so by averaging the two names together, of nationalism and socialism, you get moderate right as the result.

So even doing the stupid name argument, you get right wing.

Unless you completely forget the nationalist part of national socialist.

[JohnBrown1917]

Beware the "Democratic Socialist" with 3 homes.

You still got the wrong ideology, but keep on trying.