RIP Elite Sets

[Not A Cat]

Horrible change if this goes live. 2200 since Cata, missed some sets early MoP and during WoD because I didn't play, and even if I love the S12 recolored set, I like stuff that's no longer obtainable. People talking about being a special snowflake are kinda hypocritical. I see people showing the brand last new raid title and mount all the time and switching to the new one each time it's available not to be like the pleb. Let's face it, many people play for the rewarrds and want to be the special snowflake at some point, else everybody would fly on a gryphon, wear current tier set and be titled "the Patient".

The biggest difference is that even after they "switch to the new one" the old is still available for anyone to get in one way or another.

[RuneDK]

Not really. You can get prestigious raiding gear just by doing legacy raids. I can't see why it wouldn't work the same for pvp?

agree with this as well, and would push me to get 2.2k on my dk.

[Raelbo]

PS: I'll let the OP in on a little secret:

No one cares about your elite sets from years ago or about how awesome you think that makes you look to them. People care mostly about what their own character looks like, which is why they want access to those rewards.

What actually makes those elite sets awesome is what they mean to you, that you know what you had to achieve to earn them. No one can take that knowledge away from you, and if you believe that you need validation for that from a bunch of people who you think care (but actually don't) then sorry to say it, but the problem is not going to be solved by stopping Blizzard from making those sets available.

[Sencha]

Agree with OP. Blizzard is again listening to the casuals who want every possible reward in the game without effort. It should be the same with pve sets.

If you didn't get a reward when it was hard to get, why giving it for free some years later?

[Deleted]

Tbh whats the point of playing an mmo if not to feel like a snowflake? Atleast thats the reason i run around with field marshal title without ever having been over 1.7k in rbg and my protector tabard.

[Lady Dragonheart]

I'm glad that they're making things like this available once again. So, I'm going to push for the opposite. I have many things that are no longer obtainable, but I wouldn't care if all of it was made available again in some fashion. I don't have a pestilent need to feel uniquely special in a video game.

[Not A Cat]

Agree with OP. Blizzard is again listening to the casuals who want every possible reward in the game without effort.

Or PvPers who didn't play for a bit and would like a shot at the gear as well? Nobody is saying they shouldn't get it without effort. Make it require the same rating, hell make it require an even higher rating. Just put it back in the damn game.

[Serissa]

Ok, I did read all that BS about exclusive reward and other crap.

But can you answer one simple question:
You got your set effortlessly because your class/spec was so fucking OP back in time.
Why are you whining that everyone else will get it now (years later) effortlessly?

Well, not so effortlessly because Marks of Honor system is so fucking retarded...

[Deleted]

They should make them purchasable without any rating, for people who enjoy the transmog collection aspect of WoW. All the sets are legacy sets just like raiding tiers, which were just as prestigious back when they were relevant.
The elitism in this thread is over 9000 - imagine if all the mythic raiders started crying about old tier set being available to "casual who back pedal and have low intellect" (mix of quotes from the first page).

[Ickz]

As a multiglad from the TBC/WotLK era, I'm perfectly fine with this. As many others have repeatedly stated, you can get prestigious heroic/mythic PvE gear from old raids easily - arguably much easier than obtaining 2200 rating (on your own - not via boost). Hell, there's some elite PvP sets that I'd like to have that I missed out on due to taking breaks/not playing that class at that time. I think this is a perfect way to add more PvP rewards that aren't just from getting glad/high prestige level, something perfect for a player such as myself - someone much more skilled than the average player, but below current glad/r1 level due to time commitment/not knowing players with the right classes/etc.

When I see someone with the old PvP elite sets, I think to myself "Hey, that guy is above average skilled and happened to play during the time period that rewarded that set" - that is all. Not exactly super-omg-mega-elite-prestige-mindblown-!@#!111

If they were talking about letting 2200+ players obtain something like old gladiator drakes, then I would see reason to complain.

[Lady Dragonheart]

You still have them , you have had them for years , running around in your epic transmog. Wtf does it matter to you how other players look ? Is your need to be a special snowflake that dire ? I mean sorry , but that's pathetic

I agree with this point, it truly is pathetic when you care so much about what someone else is wearing.

[Not A Cat]

They should make them purchasable without any rating, for people who enjoy the transmog collection aspect of WoW. All the sets are legacy sets just like raiding tiers, which were just as prestigious back when they were relevant.
The elitism in this thread is over 9000 - imagine if all the mythic raiders started crying about old tier set being available to "casual who back pedal and have low intellect" (mix of quotes from the first page).

To be fair, a lot of mythic raiders do complain. Blizzard just likes the fact that people are keeping old content somewhat relevant by farming it for shinies. And I think that's fine, they put in time and effort to make the stuff, might as well still keep it available. Same thing with elite pvp sets, they put the effort into making them, so why get rid of them for a few bruised egos?

[Krusza]

Ok, I did read all that BS about exclusive reward and other crap.

But can you answer one simple question:
You got your set effortlessly because your class/spec was so fucking OP back in time.
Why are you whining that everyone else will get it now (years later) effortlessly?

Well, not so effortlessly because Marks of Honor system is so fucking retarded...

What is my set?

I have 8 elite sets and my spec was OP every single season?

Yeah, okay. Considering there's no way to know what sets they are, you're making up horseshit.

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So basically I just shredded your entire argument and this is the best response you give?

Nope, because you didn't even address it.

[Philomene]

The biggest difference is that even after they "switch to the new one" the old is still available for anyone to get in one way or another.

Yes, that's why I think they should remove mounts and titles after it's not current. But since they can't do it due to the number of people playing for the sake of collecting those rare mounts, they added the FoS.

And the FoS is the actual reward for getting it in time, not the mount nor the title.

[Krusza]

Horrible change if this goes live. 2200 since Cata, missed some sets early MoP and during WoD because I didn't play, and even if I love the S12 recolored set, I like stuff that's no longer obtainable. People talking about being a special snowflake are kinda hypocritical. I see people showing the brand last new raid title and mount all the time (or challenge back in Mists or Warlords) and switching to the new one each time it's available not to be like the pleb. Let's face it, many people play for the rewards and want to be the special snowflake at some point, else everybody would fly on a gryphon, wear current tier set and be titled "the Patient". I don't even actively wear those sets (currently using T6) but it was a reward available during some short time, and I got it. Not crying on the enchantements made available at 2.4 during Warlords cause I only achieved almost 2300 and that it used to be 2200 in Mists, I wasn't good enough, missed it, period. Rewards and rarity to some are how you keep a MMORPG healthy to me.

That's exactly my point.

There's a few elite sets I want that I didn't get, but I accept the fact that I didn't get them at the time and therefore shouldn't have them. Yet I'm the special snowflake? Alright.

[Deleted]

To be fair, a lot of mythic raiders do complain. Blizzard just likes the fact that people are keeping old content somewhat relevant by farming it for shinies. And I think that's fine, they put in time and effort to make the stuff, might as well still keep it available. Same thing with elite pvp sets, they put the effort into making them, so why get rid of them for a few bruised egos?

I just don't see the point in gating old PvP shinies behind a rating wall, when old PvE shinies aren't. Some of us have never and will never do rated PvP, but still enjoy the collection aspect and imo some of them are really cool.

[cface]

Haven't seen a thread with more cryfactor than this for ages, even when they nerf mages this just tops it. It's summed up as "baaw, exclusive, baah, I wan't to look unique and cool, my sweet exclusive reward handed out to backpedling 2.2k retards baaaw".

Obviously you are pretty much alone thinking this is a huge problem.

[Adlian]

This will be one of the most retarded changes if it goes live. Whats the point of putting any effort in the game once you can get everything for "free" after 4-5 months? Blizzard dont give a **** about their dedicated player base anymore.

"Oh look - Bob is paying the same amount as Bob2, but he is lazy ass and only AFKing in LFR and then complaining on the forums how difficult is the game. Lets give him everything for free after 6 months so he can be happy."

[Raelbo]

If you didn't get a reward when it was hard to get, why giving it for free some years later?

Because it no longer holds the same value it did when it was current. People no longer care who was in the top ten guilds during Vanilla, so it doesn't matter whether you got your tier set back then or today, it would be equally worthless as a status symbol.

The only real value of those sets is that they might look nice and provide (with the transmog appearance collection) a reason to keep players occupied doing older content instead of whining about how there is nothing to do in this game.

[Sencha]

Or PvPers who didn't play for a bit and would like a shot at the gear as well? Nobody is saying they shouldn't get it without effort. Make it require the same rating, hell make it require an even higher rating. Just put it back in the damn game.

Why putting them back? You missed the window during when you could get them. Move on. Why does everyone feel entitled to every possible item in the game?