Val'kyr and the Lich King

[Trollokdamus]

According to the latest twit from Alex Afrasiabi (can be found on the main page), Arthas only subjugated Val'kyr instead of creating new ones. Does this mean that Svala Sorrowgrave in Utgarde Pinnacle and the entirety of Valkyrion are no longer canon?

[Combatbutler]

According to the latest twit from Alex Afrasiabi (can be found on the main page), Arthas only subjugated Val'kyr instead of creating new ones. Does this mean that Svala Sorrowgrave in Utgarde Pinnacle and the entirety of Valkyrion are no longer canon?

It would seem that way.

[Deleted]

It's another 'whoops!' moment. Don't take that guy seriously. What's in the game is canon, not a tweet.

[Super Kami Dende]

Arthas didn't create them. Svala did.

[Deleted]

Arthas didn't create them. Svala did.

https://youtu.be/islwW74NS50?t=4m35s

[Combatbutler]

What's in the game is canon, not a tweet.

There are too many gameplay driven elements in it to consider it the ultimate expression of canon.

[Syegfryed]

According to the latest twit from Alex Afrasiabi (can be found on the main page), Arthas only subjugated Val'kyr instead of creating new ones. Does this mean that Svala Sorrowgrave in Utgarde Pinnacle and the entirety of Valkyrion are no longer canon?

This just confirm the guys writing the lore, don't even know, or remember the -old- lore anymore

[Cernunnos]

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Val%27kyr

Go with what's ingame as canon, unless the Warcraft:Chronicle retcons it. That book is the official lore as it stands at the time of publishing.

[Arrashi]

I always assumed that arthas val'kyr and yogg'sarons sara are just bootleg. As in if you look closer the logo isn't right and its actually spelled vul'kyr. Maybe they were manufacturing them in pandaria or something.

[Combatbutler]

This just confirm the guys writing the lore, don't even know, or remember the -old- lore anymore

Unfortunately it is not uncommon and not a new phenomena, it is how the Draenei as a race came to be after all.

[Dagoth Ur]

Sometimes I feel like Warcraft would be better off if Blizz forbids lore devs to have twitter lol. It's like you asked some random dude on the street what he thinks how val'kyr are made and not actual dev. Just shows how much they're invested in story and how much they care if it's consistent & makes sense.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Didn't afrasbi come up with the one legion many universes thing? He obviously can't handle coccaine the same way metzen could

[Leyre]

think of afrasiabi as trump, both should stay the fuck away from twitter, yet no one has the heart to tell them

[derpkitteh]

it'd be much better to say that arthas simply copied the forms of val'kyr in a way. the scourge did seem to incorporate some of the culture of the races they resurrected.

[FelPlague]

This just confirm the guys writing the lore, don't even know, or remember the -old- lore anymore

maybe because there is thousands of pages of lore in the game
its hard to remember it all sometimes...

[Flurryfang]

According to the latest twit from Alex Afrasiabi (can be found on the main page), Arthas only subjugated Val'kyr instead of creating new ones. Does this mean that Svala Sorrowgrave in Utgarde Pinnacle and the entirety of Valkyrion are no longer canon?

Pretty much fuck that guy.

Sadly, his word is close to law when it comes to lore, so little to do there, but that shit just makes so many real things happening in Wrath stupid.

[Trollokdamus]

maybe because there is thousands of pages of lore in the game
its hard to remember it all sometimes...

It's quite simple actually, not sure about something - consult Wowpedia or the likes before giving an answer, even if you're a dev. Especially if you're a dev I would say, since your words establish the lore.

[Kaleredar]

Not only that, but Valkyrion is an area they're actively raising female vrykul as val'kyr.

That'd be a pretty heavy, pointless retcon.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Could be arthas caught one, and that one taught him how to make more

[iamthedevil]

Well, it seemed more like he forced her accession as opposed to ascending her himself. HoV shows that it happens within HoV, though. So I have no clue how that would work unless he had some sort of control of Valhalla at the time. He was the king of the dead afterall. Still a stretch.

Could have been like someone else said, enslaved befriended another one to do it. Though once again, svara's ascendance proved different.

Yeh, Afrabiasi may just be forgetting something... or everything.

Dungeon Journal:
Svala distinguished herself as Ingvar the Plunderer's lieutenant, leading perilous scouting missions in Horde and Alliance outposts. It was she who discovered the enemy's plans to invade Utgarde, giving the Lich King time to prepare. For her service, he has transformed her into a val'kyr, revered warrior maiden of the Scourge.

Ok so he transformed her, no ascension. Seeing as how it says val'kyr are warrior maidens of the scourge, no mention of vrykul heritage, I'd guess this is just a fuck up due to new lore.

Maybe he knows something we don't about the 7.2 DK campaign and let it slip. Sylvannas could end up goint to Bolvar now that she needs a new source of val'kyr.