SAG Awards "Punch some people in the face"

[JohnBrown1917]

*Looks at Signature*

Aighttt.

Does not change nazis deserve to be punched, but okay?

- - - Updated - - -

The only people to destroy shops, hide their faces and assault people with different political beliefs, are the Regressive left. You're having your Kristalnacht, every night.

Nazis are 'just' a different political belief?



Good joke.

[Ghostpanther]

"Punch them in the face" in the context of his speech is an obvious euphemism for "stand up to bullies". How are you people not getting this?

It is a very poor euphemism. It invokes the concept of physical violence, which some of those on the left have resorted to.

I for one do not give two shits what a actor's opinion is on politics. They are actors, nothing special outside of that. Using their platform to express political opinions is unprofessional in my opinion. In a interview and asked about politics, that would be different.

[Spectral]

We aren't. Nazis are back. It's time for smashing.

This isn't about convincing them they're wrong. That's impossible. It's about making them afraid to spread their genocidal ideology to others.

As I've asked a few others, what's your general feeling on punching communists?

- - - Updated - - -

Does not change nazis deserve to be punched, but okay?
Nazis are 'just' a different political belief?
Good joke.

This really is rich coming from the guy that thinks Maoism is pretty cute.

[McFuu]

Yeah, no. Let's go to the facts; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

There's the 1980 recession, the 81-82 recession, the 1990-1991 recession, the 2001 recession, the 2007-2009 recession. And these WERE recessions. They weren't depressions, which is the greater impact, but some of these were major recessions. The most recent is called "The Great Recession" for a reason. And this is cutting it off at 1980, somewhat arbitrarily.

The USA hasn't been in a recession-free period for longer than a decade straight since, well, ever.



If you're worried about the threat to American safety that is posed by radical Islamic terrorism, you've been taken in by the propaganda. That threat is so statistically low that it doesn't bear being concerned about. The government should take measures to vet people, just in case, but the average citizen should be spending about as much time and effort worrying about terrorism as they do worrying about being hit by lightning. Because being hit by lightning is more likely.

I'd split this up but mobile editing sucks on my phone.

The 1980 and 81-82 recession are related, even says so on Wiki. The tech bubble "recession" was caused by the fed, the recession in itself is barely considered one Anna's hardly meets was criteria of a recession. It's not even worth mentioning. I started around 1980 because it's somewhat similar to our economy in function and driving. Why mention the 50s when we wouldn't care if there was a draught or whale oil prices are going up. Late 70s early 80s is a solid start of globalization and it's effects.


On terrorism. I 100% agree. But that isn't what you originally mentioned. You and a lot of other people liked to mention Nazi and compare that propaganda to now. There is no state sponsored propaganda. There is no support or evidence to show for state, affiliate propaganda campaigns. They don't exist. News is the closest we get, and it's largely laughable attempts at stirring up ratings.
As you said though, there is still a threat and we do owe it to do our best to address it. Just not this travel ban shit, I get it's intention, it makes sense in a cold methodical sense, but it's pretty asinine from a logic standpoint.

But no where is any of this warrant comparisons to the Nazi.

[DJ117]

Does not change nazis deserve to be punched, but okay?

- - - Updated - - -

Nazis are 'just' a different political belief?



Good joke.

In this matter you are fascists employing the same terror methods that Nazis and Communists used against dissenters. You use violence. Every time you do this, the gap between left and right increases as more join the right.

The right has always been a reactive force to the left. The more you push, the more we will push back.

You got a big mouth for someone supporting Communism whose birth country is now one of the closest to Nazi Germany. It must be sad to support an ideology that is dead.

[King Shark]

It is a very poor euphemism. It invokes the concept of physical violence, which some of those on the left have resorted to.

I for one do not give two shits what a actor's opinion is on politics. They are actors, nothing special outside of that. Using their platform to express political opinions is unprofessional in my opinion. In a interview and asked about politics, that would be different.

Not directing this directly at you, but again, Donald Trump did similar shit, and now he's President. People were waving that shit off as just talk. Can people be fucking consistent for once?

Why is it everyone hand waved Trump's bullshit, while running as leader of the free world no less, but are all over this random guy accepting a random award?

[Tijuana]

The ratings from the clips of this statement outweigh the ratings of this award show's entire historical existence. I legit did not even know this awards show was a thing. I find it amusing that some uneducated (generally) actors feel the need to speak their own words for once, and have them received as well as the ones they repeat for a living.

[Strangebrew]

And we already have people advocating for violence against Breibart writers now, pure insanity.
Fascism from both sides, left is no better then the right.

[JohnBrown1917]

In this matter you are fascists employing the same terror methods that Nazis and Communists used against dissenters. You use violence. Every time you do this, the gap between left and right increases as more join the right.

The right has always been a reactive force to the left. The more you push, the more we will push back.

You got a big mouth for someone supporting Communism whose birth country is now one of the closest to Nazi Germany. It must be sad to support an ideology that is dead.

Neither a state communist or a Russian.


And if punching Nazis turns more people into Nazis.. well.. then I really have no good words for those people.
Seems like a low bar to turn to wanting to gas the jews.

- - - Updated - - -

Not directing this directly at you, but again, Donald Trump did similar shit, and now he's President. People were waving that shit off as just talk. Can people be fucking consistent for once?

Why is it everyone hand waved Trump's bullshit, while running as leader of the free world no less, but are all over this random guy accepting a random award?

With trump in charge, its now the job of Germany.
Better resist that urge for a 4th reich!

[DJ117]

Neither a state communist or a Russian.


And if punching Nazis turns more people into Nazis.. well.. then I really have no good words for those people.
Seems like a low bar to turn to wanting to gas the jews.

- - - Updated - - -


With trump in charge, its now the job of Germany.
Better resist that urge for a 4th reich!

Why would we gas our ally against Muslims? People on the right support Israel and the Jews.

Nazis hate Jews, and it seems Lefties does as well with its anti-Israel stance. You have more in common with Nazis than we do. XD

[JohnBrown1917]

Why would we gas our ally against Muslims? People on the right support Israel and the Jews.

Nazis hate Jews, and it seems Lefties does as well with its anti-Israel stance. You have more in common with Nazis than we do. XD

Lefties hate jews? What are you on about?

And how have you missed that this whole thing is about punching Nazis? That they happen to be far right is irrelevant.

[DJ117]

Lefties hate jews? What are you on about?

And how have you missed that this whole thing is about punching Nazis? That they happen to be far right is irrelevant.

You have always hated Jews. The communist terrorist groups of the past targeted Jews and Israel. In recent times, you have been pro Islam and pro Palestine, and fighting and boycotting Israel at every turn.

There are no national socialists, only nationalists. There are no communists left, only regressive fascists. We punch hardest. You lost.

[JohnBrown1917]

You have always hated Jews. The communist terrorist groups of the past targeted Jews and Israel. In recent times, you have been pro Islam and pro Palestine, and fighting and boycotting Israel at every turn.

The fuck?

There are no national socialists, only nationalists. There are no communists left, only regressive fascists. We punch hardest. You lost.

Really, what are you on about?

[Deleted]

In this matter you are fascists employing the same terror methods that Nazis and Communists used against dissenters. You use violence. Every time you do this, the gap between left and right increases as more join the right.

The right has always been a reactive force to the left. The more you push, the more we will push back.

You got a big mouth for someone supporting Communism whose birth country is now one of the closest to Nazi Germany. It must be sad to support an ideology that is dead.

Which proves that rebanding works. Just make whites/males/christians your enemy, advocate for violence in the name of equality, censor and screech at other viewpoints and gather a mindless mob mentality.

Liberalism is truly rebranded fascism and the sheep flock to it despite being "educated" about the past. It just proves that useful idiots will never cease to exist for the elites and powerful to take advantage of as fodder for their goals.

[JohnBrown1917]

Which proves that rebanding works. Just make whites/males/christians your enemy, advocate for violence in the name of equality, censor and screech at other viewpoints and gather a mindless mob mentality.

Liberalism is truly rebranded fascism and the sheep flock to it despite being "educated" about the past. It just proves that useful idiots will never cease to exist for the elites and powerful to take advantage of as fodder for their goals.

You really have no idea what liberalism is.

[The Glitch]

I have to admit that once he started going on his rant i was just watching Winona Ryder's crazy reaction and laughing.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3bz-umWEAIwNaJ.jpg[IMG]

That's brilliant, <3 Winona Ryder.

It's even better when there is Pizza involved!

[Zython]

As I've asked a few others, what's your general feeling on punching communists?

The core conceit behind Communism isn't genocide, it is for fascism.

- - - Updated - - -

Isn't that the rationale behind being a terrorist (to cause terror or fear in order to advance a political agenda)?

No, it's the rationale behind self-defense.

- - - Updated - - -

At least you're honest about it.

Yes, I have no issue with defending myself by attacking Nazis and making them too afraid to fight back. "Never Again" might mean nothing to you, but it does to me and a lot of people.

- - - Updated - - -

Intellectuals might argue otherwise.

I mean, do you approve of beating black protestors who say stuff like white people need to be purged?

Considering that systemic genocide against white people hasn't really been a THING in the West? No.

Edit:

Ok, look. Is political violence good? In the pure abstract sense, no, it's bad. However, when it comes to the protection of human rights, too much is at stake to take violence off the table outright. And when the opponents are out-and-out fascists, there are not a lot of options on the table to begin with.

[Spectral]

The core conceit behind Communism isn't genocide, it is for fascism.

This is pretty obviously wrong. Implementing communism requires stripping property holders of all of their goods; this will effectively result in mass murder, as has been observed time and again. Claiming otherwise is the moral equivalent of Spencer's "non-violent ethnic cleansing". It's not possible, this isn't how it works - dispossessing people of everything they own results in resistance, which results in mass murder. There are basically no examples of this going any other way.

So, punch a communist day then?

- - - Updated - - -

Considering that systemic genocide against white people hasn't really been a THING in the West? No.

Where's Haiti?

[Triceratrozer]

Christ some of you people and your moral high grounds over one another.

Get over it, it's just a punch. Barfights happen. Guy was a nazi, don't defend that shit.

Free speech and all that, sure, but freedom enough for others to accept your free speech as shit and react accordingly.

They should own up to being a dipshit instead of whinging about the 'left' or 'violence against words' as if it's some new trending thing.

[Ahovv]

Christ some of you people and your moral high grounds over one another.

Get over it, it's just a punch. Barfights happen. Guy was a nazi, don't defend that shit.

Free speech and all that, sure, but freedom enough for others to accept your free speech as shit and react accordingly.

They should own up to being a dipshit instead of whinging about the 'left' or 'violence against words' as if it's some new trending thing.

"React accordingly."

Go ahead and define that in a legal way which protects you from going to jail for assault. Please try.