The Next Alliance Race?

[ravenmoon]

OP, i think wow needs less creature races, it's beginning to look like a Menagaries, and while it's perfect for all your beastly roleplay desires, i think we've had enough for now. i'm sure some of you are thinking -- they should be pets not races

pretty much, Nightborne are sorta being set up as another potential player race simply because of their return to the world being decided by two factions coming together. I'd be surprised if Nightborne don't end up as a neutral race like Pandaren, simply because Thalyssra has been working this entire time for the 'nightborne shall return to Azeroth as its saviors, not its conquerors'.

Only wierd thing is that they are kinda like Blood Elves already socially, and would need some work model and animation wise. Can't really tell what kind of customization's they would have.

blizzard don't want to do another neutral race. My hope is that the nightborne will go horde, and that high elves would become alliance accessible.

Afterall with high elves you get all the blood elven sun, light themes, light skinned elves, beautiful etc now on the alliance. And with nightborne on the horde, you get all the night elven themes, the arcane bit of them anyway, you could even get druids since the Valewalkers and Val'sharah druids are allied with the nightborne, after Botanist Tel'am, it's easy to see enough nightborne learning from the Valewalker and Val'sharah druids something that night elves are the second thing night elves are naturally most good at after the arcane. You will get the night elven Star/moon themes etc.

THe high elves will share Silvermoon with the blood elves, and the Nightborne will share Suramar with the Night Elves -

ofc the alternative is that the high elves actually just go over to the blood elves and the nightborne go over to their own night elf kin - it would be very weird for nightborne to be all horde while the night elves amongst them and around them are somehow all alliance - but maybe blizzard would think that annexing new stuff for the night elves and putting it on the horde is a great idea. In which case they perhaps should expand the high elves greatly on the alliance.

[Extremity]

pretty much, Nightborne are sorta being set up as another potential player race simply because of their return to the world being decided by two factions coming together. I'd be surprised if Nightborne don't end up as a neutral race like Pandaren, simply because Thalyssra has been working this entire time for the 'nightborne shall return to Azeroth as its saviors, not its conquerors'.

Only wierd thing is that they are kinda like Blood Elves already socially, and would need some work model and animation wise. Can't really tell what kind of customization's they would have.

Oh man, imagine what the Nightborne racials could be? They could totally do some cool stuff. Maybe some sort of magic absorb, a shield or something? They're obviously a very magical race and we've got Blood Elves with their offensive torrent, along with plenty of other offensive options. Dwarves have Stoneskin, sure, but I can totally picture some sort of "absorb X magic damage and convert to health" ability or something. I was thinking something along the lines of the addiction, too, but afaik if they were added as a race it would only be the post-fruit Nightborne that were freed of their addiction.

Somebody give me some cool racial ability ideas because I bet there are some pretty awesome ones out there.

[ravenmoon]

Oh man, imagine what the Nightborne racials could be? They could totally do some cool stuff. Maybe some sort of magic absorb, a shield or something? They're obviously a very magical race and we've got Blood Elves with their offensive torrent, along with plenty of other offensive options. Dwarves have Stoneskin, sure, but I can totally picture some sort of "absorb X magic damage and convert to health" ability or something. I was thinking something along the lines of the addiction, too, but afaik if they were added as a race it would only be the post-fruit Nightborne that were freed of their addiction.

Somebody give me some cool racial ability ideas because I bet there are some pretty awesome ones out there.

Nightborne for the horde, High elves for the Alliance. That way both blood elves and night elves are on both factions. and blizzard have to do less work with a completely new race. High Elves can have Skywall brought to the earth, while nightborne Suramar, OR. Blood elves and High Elves in Silvermoon, with Night elves and Nightborne in Suramar - but on opposite factions.

[Teaon]

Then you would have to do away with an Alliance existing race due to the fact they would have one more than Horde so no.The only way it could be a yes would be if you opened up Worgen to Horde as well.

open goblin to alliance and give ogre to horde

/fixed

[Gaaz]

Very likely (at least it seems so to me) is that a new race is going to be something new, not mentioned previously. Also, they probably will add another class in the next expansion. Something mail based. A specialist mechanic, sentry / bot builder. With that in mind, I would not be surprised if the new race is going to be mechanically themed. Perhaps a race of sentient humanoid machines or droids that program themselves to be a specific class in game. Possibly with the exclusion of magic/mana using classes due to their mechanical nature. Kind of like mechanognomes.

[ravenmoon]

open goblin to alliance and give ogre to horde

/fixed

indeed, but an alliance race should be High Elves, in their amazing uniqueness. Imagine how salty the horde fan boys would be?

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Very likely (at least it seems so to me) is that a new race is going to be something new, not mentioned previously. Also, they probably will add another class in the next expansion. Something mail based. A specialist mechanic, sentry / bot builder. With that in mind, I would not be surprised if the new race is going to be mechanically themed. Perhaps a race of sentient humanoid machines or droids that program themselves to be a specific class in game. Possibly with the exclusion of magic/mana using classes due to their mechanical nature. Kind of like mechanognomes.

meh.. i still think in all seriousness, we're getting sub-races, it's a new take on races, which i think people will prefer because every race will get some much needed lore, rather than a new group or a monster group that will just get abandoned next patch/expansion and/or make wow look like a menargerie

[Extremity]

indeed, but an alliance race should be High Elves, in their amazing uniqueness. Imagine how salty the horde fan boys would be?

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meh.. i still think in all seriousness, we're getting sub-races, it's a new take on races, which i think people will prefer because every race will get some much needed lore, rather than a new group or a monster group that will just get abandoned next patch/expansion and/or make wow look like a menargerie

You've got to look at this from a technical perspective. Adding a new race is already a pretty big undertaking, but the core work is already done, the engine already supports a "class" system. Adding "sub" classes means building a completely new system to support this new idea, making sure the years and YEARS worth of already existing content can be updated to support it, countless months of checking for bugs and looking for what is broken in B and C when you change A. From a technical and even financial perspective, I kind of doubt it's going to happen. A new class seems like the furthest and most reasonable step.

[Triceratrozer]

Arakkoa, goddamn.

[Morae]

Neutral races.

Dragonkin, dragons, whatever. In legion they have been shown to lost much of their power and are in trouble. There would be a race storyline. "Join alliance or horde so that we may survive!"

Arakkoa (the ones that are not cursed). Blizz lost the chance for this in wod. Technically now that wod is over some of them could be interested in what lies beyond their own world and search for proper cure for the curse.

Personally I don't find that Naga could become playable race. They are evil. They were made what they are by effects of elder gods (if i remember correctly). This makes them pretty evil. Blizz could, though, produce some storyline that allows some of them become not evil. Still I don't expect this to happen.

Horde.

Ogres? Apparently reason why blizz didn't put them in cata was "no one wants to play the big dumb character." From what I ahve seen, not all ogres are stupid. Just majority.

Alliance.

Fewer choices here.

High elves? THis would be too close what blood elves are, so I dont expect this to happen.

Can't really imagine others.

[DeicideUH]

High elves. *ducks and covers*

Ok, talking seriously now: I think the best possibilities would be vrykul (which could easily go Horde), ethereal (also could go Horde or be neutral) or arakkoa (fits Alliance way better than Horde in this case). Arakkoa would be really weird to equip gear, thought. They are cool partially because of all the custom robes/decoration that a player model would lack.

There's also the possibility of something entirely new. If we go to a new continent/planet in future expansions, Blizzard could add something we never seen before, like exotic-skinned humanoids or some beast/humanoid combination. However, in that case there would be a big chance of part of the playerbase rejecting the new additions (took some time for Draenei to be accepted, and they were not entirely new).

I'd prefer to get sub-races before a new race. Make an expansion about "the people of Azeroth rebuilding after the Legion", "minor races rising up now that the major races have been thinned out" and "unprecedented character customization options". Give us new skins, hair and custom options to existing races (including all those special orc/dwarf skins), then give us options to play as high elf, nightborne, broken, forest trolls, ice trolls, taunka and so on. Give some "free" race changes as part of the expansion feature, and so on.

[ravenmoon]

You've got to look at this from a technical perspective. Adding a new race is already a pretty big undertaking, but the core work is already done, the engine already supports a "class" system. Adding "sub" classes means building a completely new system to support this new idea, making sure the years and YEARS worth of already existing content can be updated to support it, countless months of checking for bugs and looking for what is broken in B and C when you change A. From a technical and even financial perspective, I kind of doubt it's going to happen. A new class seems like the furthest and most reasonable step.

sub-race not sub-class. sub-races don't require building a new zone, and integrating them intot he lroe etc, they're already there, they don't require unique models they already use existing models with different skins.. they tell us it's new model animations that takes the most work by far for art, and designing new zones is the one of the most time consuming aspects and the limiter on new expansions coming out faster.

you don't need a game breaking new engine or changes to add sub-races,it's like adding a new race as far as the menus like character creation are concerned. they don't require a new faction, they just fit into the same patch the major race they are a part of.

High elves. *ducks and covers*

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Rofl

[Rhlor]

sub race only

[Khrux]

Sub race seems most likely, Nightborne being an option for both Belfs and Nelfs.

Orcs have numerous faction types, same as Dwarves, Trolls and Tauren. Maybe Eredar type Draenei(red skin)

Not sure about other races though(goblins/Gnomes/humans/worgen/Undead etc.)

[DeicideUH]

Sub race seems most likely, Nightborne being an option for both Belfs and Nelfs.

Orcs have numerous faction types, same as Dwarves, Trolls and Tauren. Maybe Eredar type Draenei(red skin)

Not sure about other races though(goblins/Gnomes/humans/worgen/Undead etc.)

I don't think every race needs a subrace. It could be a "customization expansion". Every race would get some cosmetic updates.

I'd like (not covering all races):

Humans
- More beard types
- More hair styles and colors (including funny styles, like afros or curly hair)
- More skin tones, including tatooed skins
- New faces (bigger lips, slimmer face(
- Select body type (current "buff" one and a new slimmer one, for both males and females)

Dwarves
- More beards.
- More hair styles and colors
- New skins: Dark Iron, Wildhammer

Night Elves
- More beards/eyebrows combinations
- New hair styles
- New skin tones: paler, pinkish
- Alternative race: High elf (based on blood elf model, new skins)

Draenei:
- New skin colors (maybe some partially corrupted, with grey, redish or greenish skin)
- New hair styles and colors
- Alternative race: Broken (based on tauren model, new head)



Orcs:
- New skins colors, including brown, grey, blackened and red.
- New tatoo/body paint option
- Select body type for males: hunched (current) or upright

Troll:
- New skins (green, brown, pinkish, blue)
- New tatoo/body paint option
- Alternative races: Forest Troll (Revantusk)

Tauren:
- New skins (including Grimtotem and Highmountain)
- New beards
- New horns
- Alternative race: Taunka (based on tauren model, new head)

Blood Elves:
- New skins, including options with blue and golden eyes.
- New hair styles, specially for females.
- Alternative race: Nightborne (based on night elf model, but slightly different, new skins)

Undead:
- New skins
- New hair styles and colors
- Select body type: Allow for a more human-like, with new skins)
- Alternative race: Undead elves (uses blood elf model, new skins)


One can dream...

[Sumskittles]

I don't think every race needs a subrace. It could be a "customization expansion". Every race would get some cosmetic updates.

I'd like (not covering all races):

Humans
- More beard types
- More hair styles and colors (including funny styles, like afros or curly hair)
- More skin tones, including tatooed skins
- New faces (bigger lips, slimmer face(
- Select body type (current "buff" one and a new slimmer one, for both males and females)

Dwarves
- More beards.
- More hair styles and colors
- New skins: Dark Iron, Wildhammer

Night Elves
- More beards/eyebrows combinations
- New hair styles
- New skin tones: paler, pinkish
- Alternative race: High elf (based on blood elf model, new skins)

Draenei:
- New skin colors (maybe some partially corrupted, with grey, redish or greenish skin)
- New hair styles and colors
- Alternative race: Broken (based on tauren model, new head)



Orcs:
- New skins colors, including brown, grey, blackened and red.
- New tatoo/body paint option
- Select body type for males: hunched (current) or upright

Troll:
- New skins (green, brown, pinkish, blue)
- New tatoo/body paint option
- Alternative races: Forest Troll (Revantusk)

Tauren:
- New skins (including Grimtotem and Highmountain)
- New beards
- New horns
- Alternative race: Taunka (based on tauren model, new head)

Blood Elves:
- New skins, including options with blue and golden eyes.
- New hair styles, specially for females.
- Alternative race: Nightborne (based on night elf model, but slightly different, new skins)

Undead:
- New skins
- New hair styles and colors
- Select body type: Allow for a more human-like, with new skins)
- Alternative race: Undead elves (uses blood elf model, new skins)


One can dream...

All of this ive been wanting for years. Also another sub race for tauren could be the yaungol.

[Orangetai420]

Since I started the game, I've wanted Ethereals to be a playable race.

We've waited years for this! Make it happen Blizz!

[Extremity]

sub-race not sub-class. sub-races don't require building a new zone, and integrating them intot he lroe etc, they're already there, they don't require unique models they already use existing models with different skins.. they tell us it's new model animations that takes the most work by far for art, and designing new zones is the one of the most time consuming aspects and the limiter on new expansions coming out faster.

you don't need a game breaking new engine or changes to add sub-races,it's like adding a new race as far as the menus like character creation are concerned. they don't require a new faction, they just fit into the same patch the major race they are a part of.


Rofl

I meant to say race, not class. It still requires new modifications to support that idea. Races are already integrated, breaking them down further would require redesigning the engine to support that idea. Adding a new main race is something the engine already "knows", the system is designed to support that concept.

[DeicideUH]

I meant to say race, not class. It still requires new modifications to support that idea. Races are already integrated, breaking them down further would require redesigning the engine to support that idea. Adding a new main race is something the engine already "knows", the system is designed to support that concept.

It's not that different. A sub-race would work just like any race, all that they'd really need to adjust is the character menu to show these new "races" as sub-races.

The biggest challenge in doing sub-races are the skins, model modifications, voices and starting experience.

[Deleted]

I would hope shal'dorei for both sides, just like pandaren. That or they'll finally get around to introducing sub-races.

[Doubleturbo]

I would love to see those seal looking dudes form WOTLK. The Tuskarr i think