The Nighthold Mythic Race Progression

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You entirely missed the point of what I was saying. It's not so much knowing what the comp is, but knowing the reasoning behind the comp. You're not just gonna switch your comp to whatever your competition is using unless you have a reason to do so. Maybe Serenity is making a huge mistake with their changes. It's not possible to know without context.

Furthermore, if you wait to start your re-clear until you can figure out your competition's comp, you're just putting yourself further behind.

If a certain guild has changed their comp significantly and is sticking with it, it's not hard to figure out why. The strengths and weaknesses of certain specs aren't hard to deduce and applying that knowledge to a fight you've had dozens of pulls on isn't that hard with the collective intelligence of people who have been doing this level of raiding for years.

Of course neckbeards love to turn high end raiding into some kind of high cognitive activity on par with curing cancer, solving poverty worldwide or discovering the Higgs-Boson particle.

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That's not Blizz UI.

Those are Blizz raid frames, action bars and minimap + buffs.

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Exorsus 7/10
Serenity 5/10
FS 5/10
Method 4/10

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Where did this Pieces guild suddenly come from btw? Was a sub-top1000 guild before Legion and now suddenly top20/top10 in Legion.
Either they replaced most of their roster or their raiders suddenly improved a lot

Its a merge of two guilds according to their wowprogress information. Not sure who Grim Harvest is as I do not really follow this much.

[Poizo]

Augur will be the decisive boss again with Elisande not far behind.

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Augur will be the decisive boss again with Elisande not far behind.

Appareantly Exorsus already had a sub-5% pull on Augur.

[Rafoel]

Ok guys, at this point Method's delay might be overwhelming or might not matter at all, depends on how Gul'dan fight is constructed.

Consider this - the fight consists of phases. So if we have:

Phase 1 - that is really easy for top guilds
Phase 2 - that is insane gear check, and nearly impossible to complete with last week's gear, requiring fresh items from this week
Phase 3 - mechanically incredibly complex, where the real rivalization begins
Phase 4 - something

Then, Serenity and Exorsus would be hitting the brick wall at phase 2, being unable to practice phase 3 last week as they could't reach it, or reached it once or twice only, wiping asap due to really complex mechanics.

This week method joins. They complete phase 1 really fast because its easy. They start progressing phase 2 together with Serenity and Exorsus.... but all 3 guilds have now much more gear, they can all now complete phase 2 easily and start progressing phase 3. All time advantage Serenity and Exorsus had vanishes.

However, everything changes if its the opposite:

Phase 1 - something
Phase 2 - really complex mechanically
Phase 3 - dps/gear check
Phase 4 - something

In this case, Serenity and Exorsus already perfected phase 1 and 2 and what was stopping them was gear check in phase 3. With this week's gear, they will be able to complete phase 3 and progress phase 4 while Method still struggles with phase 2. In this case we can expect even days delay on Gul'dan kill from Method.

[Evilmoo]

for scratch did not even got to first night phase on tich.
=(

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Augur will be the decisive boss again with Elisande not far behind.

I think gul'dan will be the most decisive tho...

Can we have an update of bozzelprogress (tm)?

[Redblade]

Those are Blizz raid frames, action bars and minimap + buffs.

It's not Blizz raid frames I'm quite sure, the rest is though.

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1h on Tichondrius now for serenity

[Poizo]

Ok guys, at this point Method's delay might be overwhelming or might not matter at all, depends on how Gul'dan fight is constructed.

Consider this - the fight consists of phases. So if we have:

Phase 1 - that is really easy for top guilds
Phase 2 - that is insane gear check, and nearly impossible to complete with last week's gear, requiring fresh items from this week
Phase 3 - mechanically incredibly complex, where the real rivalization begins
Phase 4 - something

Then, Serenity and Exorsus would be hitting the brick wall at phase 2, being unable to practice phase 3 last week as they could't reach it, or reached it once or twice only, wiping asap due to really complex mechanics.

This week method joins. They complete phase 1 really fast because its easy. They start progressing phase 2 together with Serenity and Exorsus.... but all 3 guilds have now much more gear, they can all now complete phase 2 easily and start progressing phase 3. All time advantage Serenity and Exorsus had vanishes.

However, everything changes if its the opposite:

Phase 1 - something
Phase 2 - really complex mechanically
Phase 3 - dps/gear check
Phase 4 - something

In this case, Serenity and Exorsus already perfected phase 1 and 2 and what was stopping them was gear check in phase 3. With this week's gear, they will be able to complete phase 3 and progress phase 4 while Method still struggles with phase 2. In this case we can expect even days delay on Gul'dan kill from Method.

Mythic Gul'Dan has no phase 1, it starts with phase 2 and has a miniboss. BTW, he wasn't fixed until reset, which also explains guilds not wasting more time on him:

The Nighthold
Gul’dan
Resolved an issue that could cause Empowered Bonds of Fel to instantly detonate.

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It's not Blizz raid frames I'm quite sure, the rest is though.

They are Blizz raid frames. although it could it could also be Grid or Vuhdo that has been set up to look like that.

[Redblade]

although it could it could also be Grid or Vuhdo that has been set up to look like that.

This would be my bet.

[jjbarea]

And I was on it for most other bosses. Not really :thinking:.

is that why you guys are shitting the bed? you wanted to play monk for some reason? just let sco go back to warrior and you take druid lol

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Gotta love the allstars in this thread who think Gul'dan will fall instantly to whatever guild reaches him first. You must be new to this

[OrcsRLame]

If a certain guild has changed their comp significantly and is sticking with it, it's not hard to figure out why. The strengths and weaknesses of certain specs aren't hard to deduce and applying that knowledge to a fight you've had dozens of pulls on isn't that hard with the collective intelligence of people who have been doing this level of raiding for years.

Of course neckbeards love to turn high end raiding into some kind of high cognitive activity on par with curing cancer, solving poverty worldwide or discovering the Higgs-Boson particle.

How can you be sure Serenity isn't just retarded? Can you say for an absolute fact that 3 DHs is the best comp for mythic Gul'dan?

If someone literally had a gun to your head, and they asked you, "Is it optimal to bring 3 DHs to mythic Gul'dan?" and they will kill you if you get the question wrong or don't answer, would you be absolutely sure that you can get that question right 100% of the time?

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Gotta love the allstars in this thread who think Gul'dan will fall instantly to whatever guild reaches him first. You must be new to this

Gotta love the neckbeards that somehow think their opinion is more valid because they posted in a WF progression thread longer.
Infracted

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I doubt that they would collectively make such a wrong decision. If they now got a destro-lock, a fire mage and a MM Hunter, they probably need some bursty AoE for some parts of the fight.

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Gotta love the neckbeards that somehow think their opinion is more valid because they posted in a WF progression thread longer.

I guess we'll have to wait and see who's right friendo