The Nighthold Mythic Race Progression

[OrcsRLame]

Very interesting to see the different strats used by Method and Serenity. Exorsus put up a kill video yet? Curious to see if they came up with a third strat or used one of these.

[Mugus]

This is nothing new even if that is true. Guilds did this en masse in Dragon Soul, bringing in other Arcane mages on their server who had the legendary staff. No more scummy than any other class stacking tactic.

Forgive me if I am wrong, but people defend account sharing because the character is from the same guild and being played by a member of the guild. The toon is already a member it's just in the wrong hands. What we are talking about here is getting someone who isn't in the guild to come on and help the guild. The justification for account sharing is no longer valid. The guildnis actually going outside their group and getting a random to come in. In effect, it's not a guild kill. I don't see any similarities between the two with the latter being extremely scummy.

Can you post some evidence citing the use of outsiders for World First kills in Legion, WoD, MoP, etc. During BRF Paragon didn't have enough Boomkins to get the right comp on Blackhand and as a result they had to wait until the next reset. If this was standard practice then they would've solved the problem easily. I'm having a hard time believing this since it has never been mentioned.

[Deleted]

And also Blood Legion borrowed a mage from Raiding Rainbows during Spine. It isn't anything new.

A mage? Just one?

[Orpsele]

Did the thing that Fusion abuse get fixed ?
ain't gonna try it, just curious.

[Nitros14]

It took 12 days from what the first guilds got to Ragnaros until it was killed. It has only been 7 days since the race began.

Lei Shen took just as long

You can check wowprogress, that's not quite correct.

I put it together in a list here http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ed-the-longest

Ragnaros was a bit over 11 days after the death of heroic Majordomo Staghelm. Lei Shen slightly over six days after the death of heroic Twin Consorts..

Gul'dan is about an hour away from 3 days after the death of mythic Elisande.

Black Hand lived till saturday of second reset I think, and Archimonde lived until thursday of third reset. So no its not longest surviving boss since Raggnaros, pretty sure Archimonde lived longer than Rag so not sure why people keeping bringing up Rag.

Blackhand was 5 days after the destruction of mythic Blast Furnace.

Archimonde was 9 days after the death of mythic Mannoroth. Two days less than Ragnaros.

[Mugus]

And also Blood Legion borrowed a mage from Raiding Rainbows during Spine. It isn't anything new.

Can you provide evidence of anything past Cata? The meta has certainly changed since then.

[Netherblood]

Yeah, that's why I asked. You know, that's what a question mark means. It means I was asking a question.

Black Hand lived till saturday of second reset I think, and Archimonde lived until thursday of third reset. So no its not longest surviving boss since Raggnaros, pretty sure Archimonde lived longer than Rag so not sure why people keeping bringing up Rag.

[Dangg]

Can you provide evidence of anything past Cata? The meta has certainly changed since then.

4th Warlock for Lei Shen WF maybe.

[Eggroll]

I miss Paragon - and their beautiful kill videos - these dudes and dudettes were classy!

Jhazrun solo healing Garrosh 10-man

[Tharkkun]

Wow you are so late, Exorsus killed starboy 1 hour ago, and Serenity downed elisandre 2 hours ago

Method 9/10
Serenity 9/10
Exorsus 8/10

Edit: Exorsus also 9/10 40mins ago

I'm watching Wowprogress. I don't have time to stalk their individual feeds.

[Oftenwrongsoong]

long back in TBC when we there were no fatboss guides etc. we used to do the bosses ourselves. we used to make strategies ourselves. we used to wipe a dozen time. but once we figure out a boss we never wipe again. granted bosses back then were not as hard as now but hey there are no guides back then as far as i was aware of. no dungeon guides, no fatboss guides. IT WAS HOW WOW WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED. not watching some videos and kiling the boss.

I was in the Sunwell progression race on the US side. Most of what you articulate is wrong. And Sunwell, to this day, remains one of the most tightly tuned instances Blizzard has ever released. Kaplan even mentioned on the old forums that it was somewhat overtuned and that they would never tune a boss as tightly as they did M'uru.

DBM and BigWigs were all updated from PTR data, EJ had various strategies posted, and things were posted all over the place regarding strategies people were using.

[Nitros14]

Kaplan even mentioned on the old forums that it was somewhat overtuned and that they would never tune a boss as tightly as they did M'uru.

That's funny, since they immediately turned around and released Yogg-Saron, then the Lich King which were both as tightly or more tightly tuned than M'uru.

[Tharkkun]

Forgive me if I am wrong, but people defend account sharing because the character is from the same guild and being played by a member of the guild. The toon is already a member it's just in the wrong hands. What we are talking about here is getting someone who isn't in the guild to come on and help the guild. The justification for account sharing is no longer valid. The guildnis actually going outside their group and getting a random to come in. In effect, it's not a guild kill. I don't see any similarities between the two with the latter being extremely scummy.

Can you post some evidence citing the use of outsiders for World First kills in Legion, WoD, MoP, etc. During BRF Paragon didn't have enough Boomkins to get the right comp on Blackhand and as a result they had to wait until the next reset. If this was standard practice then they would've solved the problem easily. I'm having a hard time believing this since it has never been mentioned.

A guild kill is 16 out of 20. That criteria is defined by Blizzard. You must be the reason why Blizzard doesn't want to allow cross realm mythic from the start.

[Deleted]

I miss Paragon - and their beautiful kill videos - these dudes and dudettes were classy!

Jhazrun solo healing Garrosh 10-man

Yeah, when kill videos used to have epic music, looking at now people just use some generic music straight out from your generic YouTube lets play channel...

But eh, each on their own i guess.

[nerdoftheweek]

Personally I'm rooting for Serenity, what a comeback story that would be, with them having the lockout issue and such

[Twilight Cultist]

Yeah, when kill videos used to have epic music, looking at now people just use some generic music straight out from your generic YouTube lets play channel...

But eh, each on their own i guess.

Method and some other guilds usually save epic music for the last boss of a raid (with the exception of joke bosses like Xavius). Nothing has really changed.

Helya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHXd...channel=Method

Archimonde: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6i...channel=Method

Blackhand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJ_...channel=Method

Imperator Mar'gok: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baWq...channel=Method

[Kwaai]

That's funny, since they immediately turned around and released Yogg-Saron, then the Lich King which were both as tightly or more tightly tuned than M'uru.

Both of whom were end bosses.

[Enthralled]

Paragon's videos were epic because they actually put put you inside the game. They gave information about what boss was being fought and kept boss voiceover going throughout the fight, and the music selection was appropriate to that boss, instead of some generic techno or dubstep or whatever.

Method's videos use a tiny bit of the same tactic by using boss voiceover here and there, but they generally turn that down in the mix, and keep themselves and their comms chat turned up. Different approach, not as epic to me, but I am sure others like it better so they can listen in to what's happening.

[Xirrohon]

I stopped playing WoW a couple months ago but I still appreciate the WF race. I hope Method wins!

[Trollfat]

Paragon's videos were epic because they actually put put you inside the game. They gave information about what boss was being fought and kept boss voiceover going throughout the fight, and the music selection was appropriate to that boss, instead of some generic techno or dubstep or whatever.

Method's videos use a tiny bit of the same tactic by using boss voiceover here and there, but they generally turn that down in the mix, and keep themselves and their comms chat turned up. Different approach, not as epic to me, but I am sure others like it better so they can listen in to what's happening.

Agreed. Paragon's videos are the shit, they're on a completely different level. Loved the RP voiceovers at the beginning.