Football Season 2016/2017

[Jessicka]

So you essentially agree with me.

It's better than the 33 chances we created all season under LvG.

[Tommy T]

League Position does not lie.
6th. After spending more than anyone else.

You cannot argue with the facts.
Man United, at present time, are shite.

[Nerph-]

League Position does not lie.
6th. After spending more than anyone else.

You cannot argue with the facts.
Man United, at present time, are shite.

I argue that they're less shite than the previous 3 seasons!

[Jessicka]

I argue that they're less shite than the previous 3 seasons!

As are the entire top 6, especially compared to last season. Everyone basically sucked then.

[RobertoCarlos]

League Position does not lie.
6th. After spending more than anyone else.

You cannot argue with the facts.
Man United, at present time, are shite.

Who said spending money = success. Look at utd coffers this year all the pogba talk has done pretty well for business thats why he was 90mill. Not everyone has Russian money to keep growing

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Not saying Griezmann will be a miracle worker for United, but if they were to land him this summer I'm sure the goal tally would go up quite a bit. At least one would hope so

Hard to say if he'll be suited to the PL.

United's spending is nauseating if the Grizemann deal goes through.
Football's gone to ratchet.

[RobertoCarlos]

Oscar goes to China for 60mill. Higauin going for 90mill. But it's just utd that are ruining football with their spending

[Tommy T]

Who said spending money = success. Look at utd coffers this year all the pogba talk has done pretty well for business thats why he was 90mill. Not everyone has Russian money to keep growing

Where did I say spending money = success?
Spending money sets an expectation for success, yes.

Are Man United achieving it at present time? No.
Are Man United playing shite at the moment? Absolutely. Can't beat Hull at home = shite.

You think I'm having a go at Man United. I'm not. I'm just calling a spade, a spade.

[Deleted]

I didn't say it was only United.

The game has too much money in it and the brits aren't the only culprits.

[Deleted]

I argue that they're less shite than the previous 3 seasons!

Less shite, but still shite for the amount of money they're spunking.

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Where did I say spending money = success?
Spending money sets an expectation for success, yes.

Are Man United achieving it at present time? No.
Are Man United playing shite at the moment? Absolutely. Can't beat Hull at home = shite.

You think I'm having a go at Man United. I'm not. I'm just calling a spade, a spade.

You're not allowed to have a go at Man Utd on this forum though Lamps.

[RobertoCarlos]

Where did I say spending money = success?
Spending money sets an expectation for success, yes.

Are Man United achieving it at present time? No.
Are Man United playing shite at the moment? Absolutely. Can't beat Hull at home = shite.

You think I'm having a go at Man United. I'm not. I'm just calling a spade, a spade.

Time will tell. Still in all cups so silly to say they are not achieving before they are even knocked out of the cups.

Drawing to hull is bad but what can you do when people don't finish their chances?

Squad needs a bit of work to turn those draws into wins and they're right up there.

The utd job was a big one with a bloated aging squad not surprising it's a two season job

[Tommy T]

Time will tell. Still in all cups so silly to say they are not achieving before they are even knocked out of the cups.

Drawing to hull is bad but what can you do when people don't finish their chances?

Squad needs a bit of work to turn those draws into wins and they're right up there.

The utd job was a big one with a bloated aging squad not surprising it's a two season job

xDDDD

Two season job. Pretty sure this is the 4th season since Fergie.

[RobertoCarlos]

xDDDD

Two season job. Pretty sure this is the 4th season since Fergie.

What Fergie did will never happen again. No manager is winning that much now.

Mourinho has to stamp out LVG and moyes changes from the training methods and mentality to the guy that books the hotel's. Doesn't happen overnight like fifa mate

[Tommy T]

What Fergie did will never happen again. No manager is winning that much now.

Mourinho has to stamp out LVG and moyes changes from the training methods and mentality to the guy that books the hotel's. Doesn't happen overnight like fifa mate

Erm.

Mourinho at Chelsea last season. Near the relegation zone.
Conte at Chelsea this season. 9 points clear at the top.

[Cren]

League Position does not lie.
6th. After spending more than anyone else.

You cannot argue with the facts.
Man United, at present time, are shite.

Pretty sure City spent more than United tho

Not sure why this has turned in to a two page "argument". Everyone agrees that United should be performing better than what they are, but its not like United is the first of the top 6 to drop points against bottom teams. Tottenham drew against Sunderland and Arsenal even lost at home to Watford and last round Liverpool lost at home as well to a bottom team. Not really sure why United are getting this much shit

And United sure as hell are a better team now than they where under van Gaal and Moyes. Atleast now we are a tough team to beat again. Now we just need to turn a few draws in to wins and we're back in action!

And United is the only team in England who haven't gotten knocked out of a single tournament yet (not sure if Southhampton have) and we're 5 points from second place. Id say, so far its actually pretty ok. Was hoping for better, but far from shite like some here would like to believe.

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Erm.

Mourinho at Chelsea last season. Near the relegation zone.
Conte at Chelsea this season. 9 points clear at the top.

Are you comparing what Mourinho has done with Chelsea to what Ferguson did with United for 25 years? Or am i missunderstanding here.

[RobertoCarlos]

Erm.

Mourinho at Chelsea last season. Near the relegation zone.
Conte at Chelsea this season. 9 points clear at the top.

No one knows what happened at Chelsea except Mourinho and the players/staff. Clearly shit went down. Also professional players have far too much power now as proven by chelsea players performaces last season comparing them to this season and the latest dramas with west ham and Payet.

What Conte has done is pretty incredible and you guys are lucky to have him.

[Tommy T]

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Are you comparing what Mourinho has done with Chelsea to what Ferguson did with United for 25 years? Or am i missunderstanding here.

No idea. Think you need to lay off the drink buddy.

[RobertoCarlos]

Id also like to point out what has happened post utd for both LVG and Moyes and it isnt pretty.

One is in a relegation battle with Sunderland on 16 points and the other is enjoying retirement with cool Holland beer and falling over in the privacy of his own home.

Think its a safe call they weren't up to the task and probably a fair shout there were some poor transfers and decisions made.

[Deleted]

Are you comparing what Mourinho has done with Chelsea to what Ferguson did with United for 25 years? Or am i missunderstanding here.

Fergie won a European trophy with Aberdeen before the Utd job.

Just let that sink in.

[draykorinee]

Less shite, but still shite for the amount of money they're spunking.

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You're not allowed to have a go at Man Utd on this forum though Lamps.

Well, yes you are and it has been common place for the last 3 seasons, United fans have routinely been the most critical of their own team. I expect this from other people not you.

We give Scottish football shit because it's objectively true, saying United are shit is far more subjective seeing as we're still in the mix for every competition were in.