So is gul'dan the shining hope of warlock Design?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Thoughts?

Fel Efflux is a neat ability, and could cause me to brush off my warlock, even though she's always been an alternative character. I may consider her for main status someday. Who knows!

[Shodan30]

Our spells have been updated over time as well, not sure what he's on about.

Some have yes. but for instance Affliction...dots have no spell effects unless its a channel like Drain Soul (which is not necessarily mandatory for affliction). Agony, Corruption, Siphon Life, UA...these have no effects at all and they pretty much make up the entire spec.

[pappaslop]

Thoughts?

I'd trade Channel Demonfire for Fel Efflux any day.

Fel Efflux is a neat ability, and could cause me to brush off my warlock, even though she's always been an alternative character. I may consider her for main status someday. Who knows!

Sadly, didn't they essentially give Fel Efflux to DH's in the form of Eye Beam? We lost our meta... now...... ><

[MonsieuRoberts]

I would love a bigger badder Eye Beam. <3

[Nerovar]

Trust me. As a Death Knight I can tell you: You don't want the Death Knight treating.

EDIT: Well, considering they've already butchered your class... Doesn't matter anyway.

[Baconeggcheese]

Some have yes. but for instance Affliction...dots have no spell effects unless its a channel like Drain Soul (which is not necessarily mandatory for affliction). Agony, Corruption, Siphon Life, UA...these have no effects at all and they pretty much make up the entire spec.

I mean, shadow is in effectively the exact same position and I don't see anyone pretending that spriests got literally nothing.

[Turturin the Warlock]

I would love a bigger badder Eye Beam. <3

You want a spell that requires that you directly face your target in order to hit it? That works for melee since it's hard to miss from that close. Doesn't work nearly as well for ranged.

Yes the effect would look cool, but the implementation (at least the Gul'dan version), is highly impractical.

[Deleted]

They're gonna find a way to give it to mages instead.

[Zoldor]

You want a spell that requires that you directly face your target in order to hit it? That works for melee since it's hard to miss from that close. Doesn't work nearly as well for ranged.

Yes the effect would look cool, but the implementation (at least the Gul'dan version), is highly impractical.

If it has the same width I'm fine with it. If you can't hit targets with that width you aren't facing them enough to get spells off anyway. And if it has that distance, I'm okay with it. Mmmm AoE. With Cata and Rain they can just move out of it easily anyways, would be equally as effective as those two.

[Turturin the Warlock]

If it has the same width I'm fine with it. If you can't hit targets with that width you aren't facing them enough to get spells off anyway. And if it has that distance, I'm okay with it. Mmmm AoE. With Cata and Rain they can just move out of it easily anyways, would be equally as effective as those two.

you can hit a mob with spells at an 89 degree angle. I don't think you really understand facing requirements (and how to use them to your benefit) in the current system.

[Zoldor]

you can hit a mob with spells at an 89 degree angle. I don't think you really understand facing requirements (and how to use them to your benefit) in the current system.

How often are you standing facing at an 89 degree angle from the boss, beyond face away mechanics. Gul'dans beam is like 20 - 25% of the screen. If it is that large I don't think I'll have a problem hitting a stationary pack I'm usually facing anyways. On the move sure, that would be a problem. Makes the DH beam look tiny. Even still I don't think it would be as awful as suggested. If the beam stretchs far enough and has the same width I don't think it would be that annoying to play with, any more than say Cata is annoying.

[Maletalana]

They adjust the quality of spells every few expansions dude. Where have you been? Lol Legion saw Mages get fresh looking spell effects, same goes to Boomkin. There's most definitely others I'm missing here, but that's just my point, they don't leave them looking outdated, they make a pass every so often.

Don't get me started on the old Shaman Lightning Bolt. Used to look like Symmetra's right click, now it looks like Sith Force Lightning!

[Turturin the Warlock]

How often are you standing facing at an 89 degree angle from the boss, beyond face away mechanics. Gul'dans beam is like 20 - 25% of the screen. If it is that large I don't think I'll have a problem hitting a stationary pack I'm usually facing anyways. On the move sure, that would be a problem. Makes the DH beam look tiny. Even still I don't think it would be as awful as suggested. If the beam stretchs far enough and has the same width I don't think it would be that annoying to play with, any more than say Cata is annoying.

I almost hope that those of you advocating for this get it, so that I can have a good laugh when you complain how "clunky" or "unwieldly" or (insert buzz word) it is once you have it. No one remembers void ray I guess.

[bio347]

Warlock spells aren't 100% modern, but I believe all of the visible projectiles got updates in either MoP or WoD. Y'also gotta realize that warlocks will proooooobably complain about any updated graphics being not faithful enough to the original or something.

[Xeranath]

Don't get me started on the old Shaman Lightning Bolt. Used to look like Symmetra's right click, now it looks like Sith Force Lightning!

Yeah, people should fool around with an ele shammy, the spell effects are amazing. Zap zap, kapow!

Pretty difficult to make Aff pretty. What can you do to give instant cast dots a reasonable visual representation? I do miss not having soul fire, especially green soul fire. Not for Aff but just in general.

[Maletalana]

Yeah, people should fool around with an else shammy, the spell effects are amazing. Zap zap, kapow!

It's honestly my favorite caster just from the animations, when you get several multistrike hits from chain lightning or lightning bolt, it looks like you're throwing lightning with both hands like a mad man!

[Zoldor]

I almost hope that those of you advocating for this get it, so that I can have a good laugh when you complain how "clunky" or "unwieldly" or (insert buzz word) it is once you have it. No one remembers void ray I guess.

I'm sure it will be those things along with undertuned, but if we are going to have worthless talent choice in a row at least it could be cool looking. I figure it would be fairly niche as well mainly AoE, unlike the DH version, which took a while to become top dog. Again, it would need to be the size and scope of Gul'Dan's version for me to be into it, a small void ray or even the size of the DH just wouldn't work.

[Deleted]

You must feel incredibly excited at the Arcane Explosion effect, the invisible Lock dots or the invisible Arcane Blast. With the casting animations of 2004.

*Cries in Shadow*

[muto]

Inquisitor and Jailer pets plz.

[Uzkin]

Inquisitor and Jailer pets plz.

Observer, Shivarra, Voidlord and Wrathguard would be sweet as well.