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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Are we going to trust any news organization that starts the article with:

    "The reality-television show president"
    It wouldn't matter what source I used to start the discussion, someone isn't going to like it. Trump is on video saying he wants to repeal the law; that's what matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Because Arnold made a joke about him and Trump switching jobs being a good idea. Trump always has to attack anyone that mocks him.
    While that's true, he also did it apropos of nothing back in early January.



    Yes you saw that right, he referred to himself in the third person as "the ratings machine DJT".

    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Are we going to trust any news organization that starts the article with:

    "The reality-television show president"
    That is what he is in point of fact, and if you read the above, in temperament too.
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    dark ages are calling, they want their mentality back.

    religion and politics are separated for a reason, if he is so afraid of immigrants of countries where religion and politics are entwined, why does he want to copy that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sengiratolom View Post
    dark ages are calling, they want their mentality back.

    religion and politics are separated for a reason, if he is so afraid of immigrants of countries where religion and politics are entwined, why does he want to copy that?
    There's a reason why the far right has been rightfully compared to Nazism and ISIS extremism.
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    We can at least take solace in the fact that Trump's willingness to trash talk his own goddamned show at least means that financial conflicts of interest are less of a concern when his own ego is at stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sengiratolom View Post
    dark ages are calling, they want their mentality back.

    religion and politics are separated for a reason, if he is so afraid of immigrants of countries where religion and politics are entwined, why does he want to copy that?
    I want to say he was just talking shit to appeal to the religious people in his party, but I won't hold my breath on that one...
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    People keep fixating on the religious aspect of this. The "Johnson Amendment" impacts all nonprofit organizations.

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    Lets be clear that the Johnson Amendment has nothing to do with expenditure or PACs and is a complete halt on any political bias. It does not prevent civic endorsement such as promoting voters to go out and vote. It is unconstitutional and there is no argument that can refute this. It's quite literal, word for word, breach of the 1st Amendment.

    Johnson Amendment had no right to establish or prohibit religions. However, neither does the Federal Reserve Act. A religious organization filing for federal tax-exemption is acknowledgement of Congressional laws that respect the establishment of religion.

    I'll accept Johnson Amendment repeal if Federal Reserve Act is also repealed. No ifs ands or buts.
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    Personally I think the less religious organizations do on a political front the better. I mean would you really want groups like Scientology to have a clear field on a political landscape?

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    Why do I have a slight feeling that this is going to be end up like the time where republicans pushed for their citizens to sue other nations. Once they realized that it opened up for lawsuits from citizens from other countries, it was abandoned. (Although Obama vetoed it, he still got blamed for not pushing harder to make Republicans realise their stupidity). Removing this will also empower other religions than Christianity and I once again don't think they have really thought this through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    the way I see it by shutting up an organization you are shutting up the people that form it
    Only if they are required to transfer their "freedom of speech" to said organisation upon joining.
    Organisations with such requirements are cults, not churches, though.

    Did you cede your right to voice an opinion to your religious leader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    There's a reason why the far right has been rightfully compared to Nazism and ISIS extremism.
    Also a reason why US seems to be such buddies with Saudi-Arabia. They want to copy some of that great Sharia, with some Christ mixed in.
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    everytime I see the word "daily" on a website that talks about "news" I think oh... thats just fake news as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Tell me again, my false-equivalence-loving friends, how both candidates are equally terrible.
    Clinton would've sold IC-nukes to north korea by now

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    Quote Originally Posted by tratra View Post
    everytime I see the word "daily" on a website that talks about "news" I think oh... thats just fake news as always.
    You can go watch his actual speech from the prayer breakfast if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    You can go watch his actual speech from the prayer breakfast if you want.
    Am not saying he never said that, am just saying that use a bit more accurate sources next time, dailybeast sounds like dailystar and dailymail and a bunch of awfully fake outlets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpTaimer View Post
    Lets be clear that the Johnson Amendment has nothing to do with expenditure or PACs and is a complete halt on any political bias. It does not prevent civic endorsement such as promoting voters to go out and vote. It is unconstitutional and there is no argument that can refute this. It's quite literal, word for word, breach of the 1st Amendment.

    Johnson Amendment had no right to establish or prohibit religions. However, neither does the Federal Reserve Act. A religious organization filing for federal tax-exemption is acknowledgement of Congressional laws that respect the establishment of religion.

    I'll accept Johnson Amendment repeal if Federal Reserve Act is also repealed. No ifs ands or buts.
    Oh yes corporations are people, funny how that argument only applies to money and stops at everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    Still completely useless and no reason to freak out about it being removed.
    How about instead of spinning this as not as bad is it sounds, you question why it's necessary to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    Still completely useless and no reason to freak out about it being removed.
    The fuck are you talking about? You don't think there are some rich religious organisations out there with an interest in influencing politics in the US?
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    Well that is certainly a new avenue of staying nonprofit, just bank the money towards politicians.

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