Japan: No refugees, we must look after our own citizens first.

[Deleted]

You ask a lot of questions for someone who does not even know what racism is tbh

Enlighten me please oh please do or is this another statement with no context? you and the poster I replied surely have alot in common with making statements.

And if you cant see what he is trying to do with "well their culture is perfect" all done with not even one example of why its "perfect" apart from they are not taking in refugees yup I cant see ANY intent in the statement were what obviously is the focus is that their not taking in any refugees being what makes them perfect.

Its funny also how people mention "japan is small has no space" when in fact that by 2050 they will have lost over one thirds of the overall population at the very least.

[dwarven]

I don't see any problem with immigration as long as the immigrants integrate into the culture. That's what my grandparents did when they came here.

[Not A Cat]

If someone is a fan of Japanese culture, chances are they already know that Japan is pretty xenophobic so it's not surprising really. While tourism is generally seen as a good thing for the economy, there are many cases of immigrants being treated poorly.

I definitely can't blame smaller countries for not wanting to take in refugees. Some European countries are having a lot of issues with it which isn't terribly surprising either.

However, the US is so deep in its paranoia. I could buy into not wanting to let refugees into the country because of economic reasons. So far the media has been telling us that the reason is to "protect the people." Of course the right doesn't want to admit that a majority of mass killings in the past decade were done by overzealous Christians. It's hypocrisy to say they're protecting us from Islam when god fearing Americans are already running amok.

I don't see any problem with immigration as long as the immigrants integrate into the culture. That's what my grandparents did when they came here.

I agree, the problem is people have very different opinions on what integrating is. People get mad when someone doesn't speak perfect english for instance, or when they hear people speaking to others in a different language. On the other hand some people think they can't be judged for treating people poorly because that's not hey they do it in their culture.

[derpkitteh]

HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH Are you for real? Did you just watch anime and decide that what you saw there is "perfect" man I dont think you ever studied Japan in any serious capacity making such a terrible statement.

Then again I am sure this is just another racist comment trying to not be as "outrageous" as some of the other posters in this thread has been.

If you think their culture is "perfect" please do tell me what you know about japanese society besides what products and media you consume do you know anything about their history? anything about how life looks like there? social norms? I would think not.

i'm not really an anime fan. i only really watch naruto and dbz, and i'm under no illusion that there's saiyans and ninjas fucking shit up constantly over there.

it's a very reserved society, pretty insular. from everything i've seen of it from the "that japanese man yuta" channel on youtube, it's pretty great.

[Darsithis]

What does this mean?

I meant to say "is". No one has presented a good reason why it IS good to ignore immigrants and refugees.

why do we have to, look how much of a debt hole we are in, look at how many problems domestically, we help people from countries all over the world out of good faith and meanwhile ignore domestic problems and dig a hole deeper with money. I dont think we are capable of doing both otherwise it would have been done by now. Again we dont HAVE to help anyone outside of our country, and people acting like we do are delusional.

America's debt is more than sustainable, and our economy is strong. We have our lowest unemployment rate since the 2008 crash. We're hardly in bad shape.

I'm yet to find it a valid justification for Governments to make International Charity.

If a government collected more taxes than what they need (which basically does not happen in the modern world anymore, as every country is in huge debts, year after year), they have a duty to return the taxes. If the tax payers want to make charity with their money, it's their decision to do so.

If it collects less, it has no business making international aid when they are not even paying their own bills.

Then you have joke countries like mine, with a 140 Billion in debt this year, that sends money for socialist countries to build shit, offer international asylum to refugees...while brazilians themselves don't have hospitals even for emergency if you're not insured.

Nothing like the joy of spending 3 hours walking with shit in your throat, barely being able to breath and unable to see an emergency doctor but hey, at least my country is helping some dump in the middle east.

I have no idea where you live, but I really doubt any infrastructure issues in your country are because your country has contributed to international aid.

This is agitprop BS. Both the Freiburg rapist and murderer, and the Würzburg axe attacker who swore allegiance to ISIS, had - as refugees - foster families, language classes, school and additional support costing the taxpayer upward of 5000€/month.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriminalfall_Maria_L.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschl..._W%C3%BCrzburg

Yes, I know, not all refugees are perfect.

I'm so tired of hearing "so and so committed a crime!" Well, yeah, so what? Every group has a criminal element. Just because some crimes have been committed by immigrants or refugees (the same as domestic crimes by citizens) doesn't mean the entire group has to be tarnished, the same as ISIS isn't all of Islam and Westboro isn't all of Christianity. Every group has its outliers.

[Deleted]

i'm not really an anime fan. i only really watch naruto and dbz, and i'm under no illusion that there's saiyans and ninjas fucking shit up constantly over there.

it's a very reserved society, pretty insular. from everything i've seen of it from the "that japanese man yuta" channel on youtube, it's pretty great.

So my point stands did you see this part? "dont think you ever studied Japan in any serious capacity making such a terrible statement." Alright glad to see your view of japan comes from a single youtube channel + anime from what you have said this goes to strengthen what I have said more than ever.

[Kallisto]

If you're a honest law abiding citizen then you're not going to be investigated out of nowhere. You need to actually have done something that makes them suspect you.

Yes you are and can be made a suspect and investigated without doing anything. I don't know where you're from but person A can make an accusation against person B. If the accusation is high enough police can and will get involved to see if there A) is a crime done and B) if the accused likely did it. Just coming to your door and asking you to answer a few questions is part of an investigation. If that is the only thing that happens cause no evidence found then the investigation still happened.

[Ghostpanther]

Their country, their decision. I support the stance of take care of your own first.

[derpkitteh]

So my point stands did you see this part? "dont think you ever studied Japan in any serious capacity making such a terrible statement." Alright glad to see your view of japan comes from a single youtube channel + anime from what you have said this goes to strengthen what I have said more than ever.

maybe try not being an aggressive asshole?

what exactly is wrong with it? i know their views on homosexuality might be slightly more on the conservative side, they also have a bit of a problem with working their selves to death. but small improvements can be made in any society.

[grexly75]

Their country, their decision. I support the stance of take care of your own first.

Exactly it is their country, and they have every right to decide who they do and do not let in and I do support their decision as well. Unfortunately reading many or the posts in this thread there are a lot of sticky beaks, sticking their noses into another countries business.

[Tomservo]

We are a nation of Refugees and Immigrants. Japan is not. In fact Japan really does not like people moving to Japan. And has never liked it historically. Their Nation is small, and lacks the resources to handle more people.

The US however relies on immigrants. Nearly every single person living here has a history of immigrants in their families. And we do not base our immigrant hate on Logic, or historical precedent. Our reason currently is, "I'm a Republican, and I hate people who aren't me".

And Australia was a penal colony. Let's keep shipping prisoners there.

[grexly75]

And Australia was a penal colony. Let's keep shipping prisoners there.

And we will just put them on Manus Island and Nauru in the refugee camps there..

[Rasulis]

Your average Japanese can deal with foreigners on small doses. Keep in mind, Chinese and Korean cultures are not that far apart from Japanese. Also, most foreigners in Japan usually came prepared with some knowledge of the language and culture.

However, accepting large numbers of fresh off the camp middle eastern and/or African refugees would require major attitude reconditioning of pretty much the entire population of Japan. It just would not work.

[TITAN308]

I'm happy enough I can distinguish other Asian languages from Chinese.

Chinese when they speak don't utilize periods. Its one long run on sentence. Japanese and Korean, much like English have small breaks when they speak.

Now if you were to have me listen to Korean and Japanese, I'd can't distinguish the two.

For the longest time when I watch Adventure Time with my daughter I thought Lady Rainicorn was speaking Japanese.

[NED funded]

I'm happy enough I can distinguish other Asian languages from Chinese.

Chinese when they speak don't utilize periods. Its one long run on sentence. Japanese and Korean, much like English have small breaks when they speak.

Now if you were to have me listen to Korean and Japanese, I'd can't distinguish the two.

For the longest time when I watch Adventure Time with my daughter I thought Lady Rainicorn was speaking Japanese.

I officially declare this an Adventure time thread.

Lets start with a controversial opinion. Ever since season 6 adventure time has gotten worse save for some exceptions. It either takes itself too seriously or becomes too random "abstract". Also the stakes miniseries is overrrated.

Finn's mom is a supeecomputer that takes care of the remanining humans.

[Teebone]

Source: Faux News Dislcaimer



I'm not oppose to the idea of sending money vs bringing in bodies. However I know there are a ton of Japanese culture fans here and I wonder how they will balance their love of Japan vs. Japan refusing refugees.

Realistically, has their economy ever recovered from the Fukushima Tsumani?

[TITAN308]

I officially declare this an Adventure time thread.

Lets start with a controversial opinion. Ever since season 6 adventure time has gotten worse save for some exceptions. It either takes itself too seriously or becomes too random "abstract". Also the stakes miniseries is overrrated.

Finn's mom is a supeecomputer that takes care of the remanining humans.

Wow thanks for that... we have only watched up through season 7... =/ sigh

[Teebone]

For the longest time when I watch Adventure Time with my daughter I thought Lady Rainicorn was speaking Japanese.

I thought she was speaking French for a little while. She speaks it so quickly and fluently...

[Deleted]

Sweden will be a junk hole of a country in 20 yrs for their choices.

Yeah, people who aren't european obviously can't live in europe or the country will turn into a shithole.

[Deleted]

I'm so tired of hearing "so and so committed a crime!"

Guess what. I'm tired of people trying to shift blame for these peoples' behaviour from their backwards, aggressive religion to the western societies offering them shelter, education and more. And that's all you did here:

Refugees that are ignored are the ones that end up falling into the clutches of ISIS and other terrorists groups when they have nowhere else to go, when the world shows them that ISIS is telling them the truth.

Let's assume a great disaster strikes Finland, Argentine or Vietnam, resulting in millions of refugees. Let's also assume these people are - as you so succinctly put it - ignored. Surely the first thing they will do is resort to terrorism, because that's what ignored refugees do - according to you.


Reality check. Bin Ladin came from one of the richest families of the planet. All 9/11 perpatrators come from at least middle class families. Those people are not victims by any objective measure - only in their warped little minds.