Sounds like no mistweaver in all top 20 guilds progression. fucking sad.
Where is @Myta? I enjoy his rant.
Sounds like no mistweaver in all top 20 guilds progression. fucking sad.
Where is @Myta? I enjoy his rant.
Last edited by cqwrteur; 2017-02-04 at 06:48 PM.
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You cant stop my QQ.
Last edited by Babylonius; 2017-02-07 at 01:35 AM.
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They have a Mistweaver.. Stop being a troll.
if you actually did you research, you would know there are 4 guilds in the top 20 that have a MW (prestige gaming, danish terrace, openness, fatsharkyes).
please stop posting your garbage, it literally adds nothing to these threads
... and there are 20 out of 20 guilds that have rsham and hpala.
Star augur is actually unkillable without these two (and only them) atm due to beastly DPS and -dmg or +HPpool raid CD requirements.
Elisande is another healer squish fight (2 or 3 healers), and guess what two classes will be in EVERY top~50 kills (with, maybe, 1 or 2 exceptions)?
Shammies actually has 3 defensive CD's (ankh totem for +10%hp for 30 damn seconds that is also a battle-res that is off-battlerez-cd, SLT for -10% dmg, and GotQ for targeted +10%hp), as well as Guidance that does 7-9m healing per *smart* use, and H-tide for 14~18m. Oh yes, they have resurgence that results in ~80-140k passive mana return per minute at nighthold gear levels. And almost forgot, mass sprint totem or personal cast while moving ability.
Hpalas have versatile CD, that can be pure healing or defensive, best single-target healing and mediocre aoe healing, best DPS out of healing classes, and unlimited mana, as well as BoP.
Mistweavers... you have revival with 10-12m healing, lul, cocoon for 1.2m, good AoE mana-costy healing, great single target hps with the excuse of bringing you OOM in under 2 minutes... And "active" talented manareturn which requires you to stand in melee, wastes GCD's and never gives more mana than Resurgence in any timeframe. Even if you're fistweaving for the whole fight, doing crap hps. Eat that.
Why all of this whining? You can say that MW will do good in semi-hc and casual guild, but it's still there - MW's are shit while compared to the healing kings of legion - rshammies and hpalas. They're not "balanced" in any way. You can be better that bad shaman, but you will never take his spot at similar gear/skill. Same goes for hpala. And even after these two, you can't compete with same skill and gear rdruids hps-wise unless being fed innervates. So prepare to fight with priests for that 4-th healer spot that is not present on some bosses.
p.s. Waiting for bracers/new trait nerf on ptr now.Originally Posted by Ion
Last edited by EVB; 2017-02-04 at 10:21 PM.
Mistweaver Monk |
"Those who lead through fear only stay in power while those they govern lack courage." ~ Lorewalker Cho
how is past records relevant to this discussion at all?
"cutting edge" i would say is anything in top 20, hell even top 40-50. yes, some guilds may not have a mw but there are those with one, and so far the logged proof is that mws can heal 7/10 out of the fights currently on mythic nh. some have been switched out on krosus, some have not. currently guilds don't have the sufficient gear in order to 3/4 heal star augur.
Last edited by Buildapanda; 2017-02-05 at 12:49 AM.
Mistweaver Monk |
"Those who lead through fear only stay in power while those they govern lack courage." ~ Lorewalker Cho
Stacking % hp buffs is only really relevant dependenting on your strat. If you kill the first add, the strength of shaman goes down compared to a class like disc priest.
There are plenty of guilds that are very close to kills using something other than shaman/paladin. That will obviously be the meta comp for most guilds, but it's not like it's the only viable comp.
Raw damage of add's AoE on mythic (Witness the Void buff adds +200% dmg on mythic):
1st cast 950*1=950k
2nd cast: 950*3=2850k
3rd cast: 950*5=4750k
4rd cast: 950*7=6650k
5rd cast: 950*9=8550k
Zerg strategy means boss dies before 6th cast while 5th is survivable only by Darkness procs and personal immune abilities/BoP.
First add killling strategy (like, forexample, Method did) allows you to kill the boss between 4th and 5th casts of 2nd mob. But it makes raid damage very heavy due to voidburst stack AND you still need to CD the 3th and 4th oneshot casts that will never be outgeared unless boss being nerfed, and revival, hymn or tranq is meh here. Disc will do things here, yes.... only when fed by moonkins. Otherwise he'll be dry half into the phase, thanks to voidburst.
MW's/druids/hpriests on augur? Forget about it. Maybe in 910+.
Last edited by EVB; 2017-02-05 at 05:37 AM.
if MWs not being represented in world first kills makes them unplayable for you, you are free to reroll shaman/paladin like I tried to do, but at the end of the day (imo) an average shaman/paladin is a bigger detriment to the raid than a really good MW
In WoW healers are not only healers but fill the role of supports as well.
The reason mistweaver unviable is because mw is just a healer not a support.