It would take a book for me to explain how he won, and even then I might be wrong. No one knows. But clearly there were some major factors.
1. Hillary was a TERRIBLE candidate
2. the plebes are fed up with the establishment of both parties, and no longer trust the media
3. the Democrat party made a strategic decision to not campaign towards the white working class
I don't see the Democrats or the media working to correct any of this yet, and all indications are that they are going to double down on stupid. And now they have to worry about the midwest...Trump opened up an entire new front for the Republicans.
If you have little in the way of fact, perhaps this is because there aren't many facts to support your thesis? Nobody said blue collar jobs are obsolete. But we're saying you can't create blue collar jobs out of thin air and expect it to work as intended. The US has no actual need for more blue collar jobs, to create jobs, you need to create demand. And the only way you can accomplish that is to increase the price of all goods affected to a level where the expensive blue collar jobs in the US are more cost efficient than the Singaporian or Chinese worker being happy to work for 10 dollars a day.
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If anything Trump only opened up a new front for Trump. He has to deliver jobs in order to hold on to the rust belt. His whole shtick was about how free trade took their jobs, and guess who the party of free trade is? It's ridiculously absurd that people believe a reliably democratic area of the country has all of a sudden fully backed the republican agenda.
I mean, believe what you need to believe, but it's not realistic.
Middle America disagreed about the need for more blue collar jobs. We also understand we may all pay a bit more for our plastic widgets, but they would prefer to pay from a paycheck instead of a welfare check.
Your right. He has to deliver. That being said, all obstructionists must be swept away.
Hopefully never!
You're a part of a disgusting movement that care nothing for facts, and in a perfect world would be deported to some remote island with no internet access.
On the plus side this place would have no government/laws so you'd be free to execise all your gun rights on each other. There would be no worries of any of you building so much as a raft as the collective intelligence of such a utopia would probably max out around creating fire.
And don't tell me about the paradoxes in my post, I am well aware of them, just think of it as extreme sarcasm.
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
With his conversations being all over the place, do you think he has the beginnings of a disease similar to alzheimers?
I would not give much about "white house leaks".
An information leak sometimes also can be a desinformation leak.
I'm sorry, did you think that a new president would simply turn the whole country around once elected?
Thats not usually how it works.
Now, I'm guessing you're saying this becuase you dislike everyone thats not Putin or his lapdog and Hollande sure is no fan of Putin but still.
His attitude towards NATO is not the attitude he has towards Hollande. Hollande is an irrelevancy of a president who has no power in his own country. He's just warming the seat he's sitting on for either Macron, Fillon or Le Pen. I'm placing my money on Macron for the moment but we'll see.
"Life is one long series of problems to solve. The more you solve, the better a man you become.... Tribulations spawn in life and over and over again we must stand our ground and face them."
Okay, sure, the french one was bad, but... seriously: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15O2A5
Edit: Suppose I should add some description. During phone call with putin, calls new start a bad deal for the US, then asks his advisors what newstart is.
"In his first call as president with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump denounced an Obama-era treaty that caps U.S. and Russian deployment of nuclear warheads. During a pause in the call, he turned to his aides and asked what the treaty was."
You were good, kid, real good. But as long as I'm around, you'll always be second best, see?
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Oh, and no comment from Xe'ra about how the assault on the black temple was being led in part by the naaru. So was hatred corrupting A'dal's mind too, you pretentious windchime?
- Volpethrope
I think you underestimate the damage that will do to the voter base of the GOP.
What do I mean?
1)Trump was an anti-establishment candidate.
2)The GOP is utterly dependent on right-leaning white voters, ever since the Southern Strategy.
3)If the GOP establishment is seen as complicit in taking down Trump, come the next election their base will in large part sit at home.
Maybe, maybe Trump can do something so shtty that the Trumpkins desert him, but I just don't see it. So, what mainstream Republicans have to ask themselves is a simple question:
Are we prepared to see a unified Democratic government ( POTUS & Congress) for minimum 8 years? Are we prepared to accept all that will entail (an assault on GOP gerrymandering, rollback of "religious freedom exceptions", more protections for LGBTQ people, significant steps towards single payer health care, and so on)?
Because, Skroe, I think that if the GOP doesn't "protect" Trump, they're a minority party for most of the next decade thereafter. And the allure of power is the surest killer of people's principles.
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Chinese workers work for $1.25 an hour with no pension, no retirement, no health care, 14 hours a day for 7 days a week and they don't even get safety requirements met. Good luck getting those jobs back, it is cheaper to make it there and ship it all the way across the planet back to us than it is to pay Americans to do the work. The only way you are getting those jobs back is if you are willing to work for $1 an hour.
ANY politician tells you they are bringing the jobs back an alarm should go off in your head, "LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!! WOOOOOOOO! LIAR!!!"
If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.