After ICE arrests, fear spreads among undocumented immigrants

[the game]

Uhh no. It's your responsibility not ours.

because they're from mexico? But they helped rebuild after the hurricane. You would refuse to help them in their times of need? That's not very progressive of you.

[Tennis]

because they're from mexico? But they helped rebuild after the hurricane. You would refuse to help them in their times of need? That's not very progressive of you.

Exactly. What happens when there is another hurricane and they're not there to rebuild?

[Molis]

Exactly. What happens when there is another hurricane and they're not there to rebuild?

Canadians will help us.

[the game]

Exactly. What happens when there is another hurricane and they're not there to rebuild?

I'm starting to think you're not a true Canadian. You are not progressive at all and insensitive to the needs of these mexican immigrants. It's sad you're willing to throw them out in the streets.

[Seranthor]

Uhh no. It's your responsibility not ours.

If its OUR responsibility then WE can decide to comply with our laws and send them home.

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Exactly. What happens when there is another hurricane and they're not there to rebuild?

Then the people that want to rebuild will need to hire different people at wages that aren't exploitative

[Tennis]

If its OUR responsibility then WE can decide to comply with our laws and send them home.

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Then the people that want to rebuild will need to hire different people at wages that aren't exploitative

So your plan is to ship out 12 million people. That's inhuman.

[Seranthor]

So your plan is to ship out 12 million people. That's inhuman.

They were offered to you, you turned them down. I guess you weren't the welcoming sort after all.

[Samitsu]

It'd like to know which person has never torrented a movie or song and stops at every single stop sign.

Please stop downplaying the severity of illegal immigration.

So your plan is to ship out 12 million people. That's inhuman.

Elaborate how that is inhuman? It is not a human right to stay illegally in a country.

[ovm33]

Thread title is Bull shit.

ILLEGAL ALIENS. Foreign Invaders could work too. Stop trying to change the narrative to something that sounds innocuous.

Those who break the law should fear the consequences. I don't give a damn how much it costs. Get them out. We can do without another new Aircraft Carrier.

[schwarzkopf]

God has nothing to do with this.

But his minions have EVERYTHING to do with this ... that's how Trump got into power.

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Get them out. We can do without another new Aircraft Carrier.

So, you are willing to put the entire country, the economy and every other project in the USA on hold for the 20 years and 600 billion dollars just to get people you don't like out of the country.

There are faster and cheaper ways to solve the problem young fascist.

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Elaborate how that is inhuman?

The damage it would cause to innocent US citizens in the process would be disastrous. You would spend 20 years and $600billion on these 'criminals' instead of spending that kind of resource on your own citizens.

That's just wrong.

[Elegiac]

Thread title is Bull shit.

ILLEGAL ALIENS. Foreign Invaders could work too. Stop trying to change the narrative to something that sounds innocuous.

Those who break the law should fear the consequences. I don't give a damn how much it costs. Get them out. We can do without another new Aircraft Carrier.

So if we granted them amnesty and changed the law you wouldn't have an issue? Good to know.

[Stormspark]

The best, easiest, and quickest way to get rid of illegal immigration is to go after the businesses that hire them and pay them under the table, and the landlords that rent to them.

[Kallisto]

The best, easiest, and quickest way to get rid of illegal immigration is to go after the businesses that hire them and pay them under the table, and the landlords that rent to them.

Also work with the countries they come from as well. So that it isn't a choice between living in a place where staying is a death sentence and moving to the US through any means necessary to survive.

[Zomis]

Thread title is Bull shit.

ILLEGAL ALIENS. Foreign Invaders could work too. Stop trying to change the narrative to something that sounds innocuous.

Those who break the law should fear the consequences. I don't give a damn how much it costs. Get them out. We can do without another new Aircraft Carrier.

Damn straight! These kids don't understand laws or how common sense works. Their savior Obama knew this, that is why under him more illegals have been deported than any other President!

[ovm33]

So, you are willing to put the entire country, the economy and every other project in the USA on hold for the 20 years and 600 billion dollars just to get people you don't like out of the country.

There are faster and cheaper ways to solve the problem young fascist.

WTF are you even on about? How in the hell do you come up with 20 years and 600 Billion dollars? I mean I know you bleeding hearts don't have a firm grasp of reality but jesus... There are what 12 million illegals? Your suggesting it will cost 6b / 12m = $50,000 per illegal? /smh

If deporting 150 Felons is enough to strike fear in the illegals...* Then imagine what deporting 20,000 will do. They'll start leaving on their own. You act as if we have to go house to house with SWAT teams. Further, as was suggested, cracking down on the businesses that hire them will further drive them away.

And I have no doubt that pulling out the cheap - practically slave labor from businesses will hurt the economy. The 1% will take a beating in the market that's for sure. Meanwhile, the middle class will actually begin to grow again as businesses will be forced to pay fair wages to employees. No more $10 an hour roofers. Yes; prices will go up to. But as the left always touts with increasing the minimum wage: prices won't go up enough to outstrip the increased pay.

And really? Facist..?

*Look it up. Every illegal** that was deported in these raids had committed and been found guilty of a felony here. I'm not talking about the felony of illegally entering the country either. I'm talking theft, drugs, rape, etc.

Edit** : Okay, only 75% of them upon further reading. The other 25% were known associates.

[Zomis]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/11/politi...ear/index.html



I really am not pleased about spreading fear. People are keeping their kids home from school and are worried about opening their doors!

If you watch this and you still believe the raids were wrong, there is no helping you.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/532219815...#sp=show-clips

[Chetnik]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/11/politi...ear/index.html



I really am not pleased about spreading fear. People are keeping their kids home from school and are worried about opening their doors!

Wasn't there some story about a "poor mom" from LA who was getting deported too? Didn't the media try to twist it into a "poor her" story by leaving out the fact that she was a convicted felon for identity theft?

As far as I'm concerned, deport them all. If you think it's so bad that it's happening, feel free to sponsor them for citizenship. You only have to pay a nominal fee + all their fees + guarantee each individual you're sponsoring will be an asset to the country. Don't want to do that? Well neither do the rest of us.

[derpkitteh]

Hope you don't break the law and download music, videos, games, mangas or whatever for 'free'. Cause you are good and don't break the law and pay for everything.

i've literally never pirated anything. i go without until i have the money to get shit.

[shoegazing]

Sorry, I deal in facts, not your feels.

ok here's a fact for you

undocumented immigrants commit less violent crimes per capita than US citizens do

and contrary to the fantasies of our president, crime rates have been declining in this country for decades. there is no "crime epidemic"

the right does not deal in facts, that is a load of nonsense. you people deal in unfounded fear and hysteria

universal healthcare is proven to be cheaper and more effective than the capitalist model yet you people are terrified of it because you have an emotional response to the word socialism. the right is the side of emotions and fear not the side of facts and knowledge.

you people are so averse to facts that you have convinced yourselves that all of science and academia are engaged in some kind of grand conspiracy... it would be laughable if it weren't so damn pathetic how delusional and completely divorced from factual reality the right wing has become

[Spiffums]

My opinion is that if they are already here and in good legal standing they should be given the opportunity to apply for a permanent residency. But if that have legal issues that would cause them to be kicked back by USCIS they should be deported and they can try to follow legal chanels through their home country if the want.

That's like saying if a bunch of people moved into your house while you're at the store and have good legal standing they should be given the opportunity to apply to stay in your house and you can't kick them out.