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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    So, has anyone crawled frame by frame through those video skips?
    Oh god why are they doing this again

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Ballistic View Post
    Some people mentioned Sombra at 0:50 sec but I can't see her, unless they are talking about the same cut scene transition that was being used in Sombra trailer...I don't know!
    Yeah, they mean the cutscene transition. It just feels like grasping though, just like with those Stukov hints recently.

    Main reasoning I have for the next hero not being Sombra is that OW heroes are translated pretty directly, meaning that if they plan ahead for a hero they'll already know that we just got an OW hero and maybe don't wanna do 2 in a row (like what happened with the WC assassins). IDK though, Sombra would likely be a specialist so we'd have all 4 roles for OW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    I think Lucio actually does less damage than Morales =p
    Morales actually has surprisingly high damage output if talented, especially with her Grenades. Fun in QM.
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    I think your problem is a lack of intellect.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by ophion1990 View Post
    Yeah, they mean the cutscene transition. It just feels like grasping though, just like with those Stukov hints recently.

    Main reasoning I have for the next hero not being Sombra is that OW heroes are translated pretty directly, meaning that if they plan ahead for a hero they'll already know that we just got an OW hero and maybe don't wanna do 2 in a row (like what happened with the WC assassins). IDK though, Sombra would likely be a specialist so we'd have all 4 roles for OW.
    It would also mean ANOTHER stealth character in a very short span of time. I don't think QM is ready for another just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    It would also mean ANOTHER stealth character in a very short span of time. I don't think QM is ready for another just yet.
    No more stealthies for a while. T_T

    I want to play Chromie, Abathur, and Murky again some time soon.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by De Lupe View Post
    No more stealthies for a while. T_T

    I want to play Chromie, Abathur, and Murky again some time soon.
    Wait till Tuesday, the upcoming patch basically makes Murky a god, stealthies or no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcall View Post
    Wait till Tuesday, the upcoming patch basically makes Murky a god, stealthies or no.
    Tried him on the PTR. Got many laughs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Morales actually has surprisingly high damage output if talented, especially with her Grenades. Fun in QM.
    Yeah but every single other support, when talented for damage, will do ass loads more than Morales. Esp since Morales damage comes from hitting multiple people with a grenade, which is usually just damage padding because most of the time you want to keep your enemies clumped.

    Lucio does even less
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    Yea, I tried Lucio on ptr as well and his damage does pretty much nothing. I have also played a lot of Morales and her damage seems higher. If they made Lucios damage similar to her I think it would be great.
    I couldn't get a QM game on ptr, eternal queue, so had to go against AI and they were not the optimal team players to try him out properly :P But I can see the potential he has, and wall riding is really fun

  10. #90
    Yeah, Lucio can make some good plays, but if you want damage, he is definitely not for you, he's low even by support standards.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcall View Post
    Yeah, Lucio can make some good plays, but if you want damage, he is definitely not for you, he's low even by support standards.
    Who the hell play support and seeks its damage output, we have face roll assassins heroes and you all compare supports damage LOL.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Ballistic View Post
    Who the hell play support and seeks its damage output, we have face roll assassins heroes and you all compare supports damage LOL.
    A lot of people like having a support who can do more than JUST support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballistic View Post
    Who the hell play support and seeks its damage output, we have face roll assassins heroes and you all compare supports damage LOL.
    Even contributing with a damage is supporting.

    Kharazim and Rehgar are picked for that because they are good at peeling and bring good kill pressure. They don't much damage in a long run, but they have high spike damage to present a real threat.

    Regarding Lucio, he brings such good utility he doesn't need a damage to be a force to reckon with.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcall View Post
    A lot of people like having a support who can do more than JUST support.
    Good luck in that when the enemy drop the ball on your team while you can't outheal their dps because you picked couple of dps talents thinking these are gonna make difference in game fights. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballistic View Post
    Who the hell play support and seeks its damage output, we have face roll assassins heroes and you all compare supports damage LOL.
    Well, perhaps you should try morales without speccing for damage, and if you think being similar to that is asking for too much damage, well...

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Ballistic View Post
    Good luck in that when the enemy drop the ball on your team while you can't outheal their dps because you picked couple of dps talents thinking these are gonna make difference in game fights. LOL
    And yet, when Rhegar and Kharazim are picked, their damage DOES make a difference. So can Lili's, for that matter.

  17. #97
    there are damage capable supports and situations where they are needed and there are healing supports, and there are utility/healing supports and there are utility supports and shield supports.

  18. #98
    Lucio should be releasing for the US in about 10-12 hours! No clue about the exact timing of the EU release, seeing as they haven't added a Heroes schedule to this week's maintenance list.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcall View Post
    Yeah, Lucio can make some good plays, but if you want damage, he is definitely not for you, he's low even by support standards.
    Is the damage even low with reverse Amp? What about damage at level 20 with the storm talented Reverse Amp?

    Also how is his healing? I suspect AoE percentage heals are a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    Lucio should be releasing for the US in about 10-12 hours! No clue about the exact timing of the EU release, seeing as they haven't added a Heroes schedule to this week's maintenance list.
    Probably 12 AM CET on Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ophion1990 View Post
    Yeah, they mean the cutscene transition. It just feels like grasping though, just like with those Stukov hints recently.

    Main reasoning I have for the next hero not being Sombra is that OW heroes are translated pretty directly, meaning that if they plan ahead for a hero they'll already know that we just got an OW hero and maybe don't wanna do 2 in a row (like what happened with the WC assassins). IDK though, Sombra would likely be a specialist so we'd have all 4 roles for OW.
    Stukov is a possibility and so is D.Va; Leaked Kerrigan interaction, and mentioned by a redditor who deleted his comment some time later; same redditor was accurate about DH Valeera, after which I peddled his prediction on Lucio release, which was also dead on.

    So the next few heroes look like:

    D.Va, Stukov, Kel'Thuzad, Junkrat. Unless something else pops up like Mekkatorque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttak82 View Post

    Stukov is a possibility and so is D.Va; Leaked Kerrigan interaction, and mentioned by a redditor who deleted his comment some time later; same redditor was accurate about DH Valeera, after which I peddled his prediction on Lucio release, which was also dead on.

    So the next few heroes look like:

    D.Va, Stukov, Kel'Thuzad, Junkrat. Unless something else pops up like Mekkatorque.
    Well, keep in mind that there have been Maiev and Overmind interactions since the game was still in alpha (even Rag interactions went that far back). So while they are a possibility, an interaction means they recorded extra voicelines so hey don't have to rehire voice actors every time a new hero comes out. First thing I hear about the other leak though, it's not like I'd mind Stukov, I just thought the "hint" at the end of the Zul'jin trailer and "find Valeera" pick felt like grasping.

    Kel'thuzad and Junkrat would definitly be hype though, makes me wonder if Kel'thuzad is gonna be another "dps" support type character. Which'd be nice, since Lucio seems like he's more of a full on healer/support (like morales) but not really great on his own (like Tyrande or Kharazim can be for example).

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