US fails the German anthem at tennis fed cup

[Slant]

He was neither austrian nor german at the time. "Germany" wasn´t even a thing.

Uh-huh, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

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i dont read what you say slant we've been over this

that was a poke at them for being nazis back in the day.

BUT how in the hell am i supposed to learn a national anthem thats only 70 years old? aint nobody got time for that

We haven't actually been over this, but I'm not exactly surprised to find yet another ignorant person on this forum. Enjoy the company on my ignore list then.

[ranzino]

This is year 2017. I guess it takes a really ignorant person to do this. Like, at least Google check "Germany anthem"?

USA-Germany was even a match in Brazil 2014 World Cup. Nobody listened ?

[Inuyaki]

We haven't had a single decent tennis player since those two.

What?
Is "decent" nowadays "top1 for a few years" or what?
Haas and Kerber obv having a career high of #2 and #1 respectively.
And let's be honest, Haas had top-potential but his injuries...
Schüttler #5 and Petkovic #9 are not that bad either.

I guess they were just bad and got lucky all the time


PS yes, they weren't as dominant as Graf was, but so was no one else.

[Allybeboba]

No, you should just play the Russian national anthem instead.

FFS, Gen OT. I waded through six pages of this dreck and not a single one of you made this joke. Ya'll a colossal disappointment.

Funny thing is, I used to sing "Dixie" quite often in my elementary music class. As did all my fellow black students. As did my fellow students with Latino and Asian ancestry.
I don't remember any of us thinking a thing about either.

[Mayhem]

Uh-huh, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

A bunch of archudchies and other states on their own under no combined ruling. Or am i missing something?

[ranzino]

A bunch of archudchies and other states on their own under no combined ruling. Or am i missing something?

Depends on timetable; HRR endet 1806 AFAIK.

[Mayhem]

Depends on timetable; HRR endet 1806 AFAIK.

Well since mozart was already dead at that time it´s not meaningful to the discussion. However if you want to consider the HRR during Mozarts time it was already ruled by Habsburg-Lothringen and therefore under Austrian rule. I do think the archdutchies and smaller states had much more power during mozarts time so i wouldn´t consider him either austrian or german.

[ranzino]

Well since mozart was already dead at that time it´s not meaningful to the discussion. However if you want to consider the HRR during Mozarts time it was already ruled by Habsburg-Lothringen and therefore under Austrian rule. I do think the archdutchies and smaller states had much more power during mozarts time so i wouldn´t consider him either austrian or german.

Well, Ostarrichi war part of HRR; then Franz renounced the holy imperial crown and took his fine collection of habsburg-ruled countries and Imperial Austria was born. He was Emperor of Austria already in 1804; HRR ended in 1806.

Mozart was subject of Josef II., who was Holy Roman Emperor.

[Spiffums]

I mean if china played american badass instead of the anthem youd never hear the end of it.

Kid Rock singing or some Chinese dude?

[Mayhem]

Mozart was subject of Josef II., who was Holy Roman Emperor.

Yep as i said, already the Habsburg-Lothringen dynasty.

[Glorious Leader]

Kid Rock singing or some Chinese dude?

hmmm some chinese dude prolly I mean I guess they could get kid rock to come in on a motor bike, shotgun a beer, fire of a rifle, head bang etc

[ranzino]

Yep as i said, already the Habsburg-Lothringen dynasty.

Josef was son of Stephan of Lothringen, of course he was from this dynasty.

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Um... for some of the tennis players this is the only chance they'll ever get at representing Germany. It's the high mark of their career and they're immensely proud and emotional about it. And then someone fucks it up and they're only in the press as a side note to "the nazi anthem playing".

Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed, too.

Why though? It's how large parts of the world still see Germany and will see it for a long time to come. It's not as if Germans do not throughly enjoy wallowing in their cult of guilt and self flagellation.

Look at Japan and how it dealt with it's past and what picture the world now has of them, then compare it to Germany and their approach. You reap what you sow.

[Bigbazz]

What am I missing here, the tune is right I guess the lyrics are alternate?

[ranzino]

What am I missing here, the tune is right I guess the lyrics are alternate?

Thou shalt not sing it !!

[Mayhem]

Why though? It's how large parts of the world still see Germany and will see it for a long time to come. It's not as if Germans do not throughly enjoy wallowing in their cult of guilt and self flagellation.

Look at Japan and how it dealt with it's past and what picture the world now has of them, then compare it to Germany and their approach. You reap what you sow.

Always funny to read about germans cult of guilt and self flagellation from a non-german.

What picture has the world of japan? Weird fetishes and a over the top use of humbleness?

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Always funny to read about germans cult of guilt and self flagellation from a non-german.

I am actually half German, just not buying into the entire guilt cult. If you celebrate your supposed evilness, guilt and all the wrong things in the past you do not get to whine when others join in and actually view you that way.

What picture has the world of japan? Weird fetishes and a over the top use of humbleness?

Two of many, mostly positive stereotypes. From hard working, to advanced, to one of the most curious and interesting countries there is. Aside from their direct neighbours, basically everyone has forgotten about the Imperial Japanese warcrimes and actions.

You made your bed, now lie in it.

[Mayhem]

I am actually half German, just not buying into the entire guilt cult. If you celebrate your supposed evilness, guilt and all the wrong things in the past you do not get to whine when others join in and actually view you that way.

No one celebrates their evilness, guilt and all the wrong things in the past in germany. I don´t know what the german half of your family does but my buest guess is, they´re making fun of you.

Two of many, mostly positive stereotypes. From hard working, to advanced, to one of the most curious and interesting countries there is. Aside from their direct neighbours, basically everyone has forgotten about the Imperial Japanese warcrimes and actions.

You made your bed, now lie in it.

Right, and no one ever thinks of germans as getting shit done in the most efficient and precise way possible, nope.

[primalmatter]

There is nothing about this that I do not find amusing.

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Meh, it's kind of your own fault for not changing the song to begin with, it's bound to confuse people every once in a while.

Well, the theme is originally from Joseph Haydn's string quartet. Haydn was a close friend and mentor of Mozart. Abandoning such a composer just because a crazy guy with a moustache briefly took over would be a crime against art.