Is that not what news has become?
Thanks to the various different media outlets pushing their bias agenda (its on both sides) we can't simply take one source as fact anymore.
You basically have to be a paranoid conspiracist to get even remotely close to the truth anymore.
If a source is available to an article we have to go to that source and read the entire thing... just to find out that while what the article said is technically true... it was taken completely out of context. (not talking about anything specific) That of course is assuming source material is available at all. At which point you need to find an article from your political opponents camp or polar opposite and read/listen to them make the same half-truths, so that we can decide somewhere in the middle is where the modicum of truth lies.
Its exhausting really... keeping up with current events has never been so difficult. Yay for 2017 [insert shit emoticon]
See heres the thing. I get why you guys are saying pence is arguable better. That makes sense. Its just far to dangerous to normalize someone like pence. Just like any old republican really downplays how awful hus genda will be and realistically im not sure itll be all that different from what weve seen already. Itll be handled more competently sure. Not sure thats a winning criteria.
Its very unlikely. He was in no position to make the promises he made with regard to sanctions as he would never have the power, personally, to keep those promises. He could only make them if he was told that the sanctions would be lifted by others in the Trump administration, and likely Trump himself. That then begs the question was he told by Trump to make those promises?
Also, notably, the Trump dossier seems to be proving correct, that there have been consistent contacts between the Trump team and the Putin inner circle. That then leads credence to the rest of the dossier. For example the claims that Putin has Kompromat material on Trump. After all he did seemingly proposition one of the contestants at the Miss Universe competition he hosted in Russia, so its no stretch to imagine him getting his end away with someone or other there and Russian intelligence taping them in the act.
This story has legs and its going to continue to run no matter how much Trump does not want it to. If he seeks to block it or sit on information as he did with Flynn (you'll note that he on purpose kept Mike Pence in the dark), the "blob" will simply leak it to a credible news outlet such as they did here with the Washington Post. They are not going to let the white house be occupied by someone compromised by Russia, and if that is what they determine Trump to be, then one way or another they will let everyone know that truth.
If nothing else, this thread is a good excuse to listen to some Fugazi...
https://youtu.be/cMOAXm94VWo
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Then of course its up to the opposition to tie donald trump to the republicans. I remember the bushes used to have a trick. They would constantly use 9/11 and iraq in sentencea together to associate the two. Not sure why the dems cant do the same. Trump and republicans.
Of course the opposition is weak and feckless but if they grow a pair it could work.
Trump supporters... YOU made this possible. This is _your_ fault. Look at that headline. That is the picture of dysfunction. How is "making America great" going for you?
It's going to get worse, before it gets good I'll give you that. But, at the same time there might just be a light at the end of the dark tunnel. This might be the one, giant kick in the ass this country needs in order for both sides to meet in the middle again, and function as a government should.
Trump is the representative of the GOP or the far-right wing of the government. Once he's ousted, and publicly humiliated, there's a good chance the far right will be put down like the rabid mutt should be. Afterall, there is always a scapegoat.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
It became very clear what MAGA was when they did a lot of interviews with middle Americans. A lot of them had lost their jobs and MAGA was just a catch-all phrase for "Hey, you have a problem? Does your life suck? I'll fix it and make it good again!"
Sane people realized it was just a pile of bullshit being sold by a con-artist salesman. Others ate it hook, line and sinker believing Trump would fix all of their problems.
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
For as much as conservatives and their screeching posse laughed about "Russian hackers" and Trump having Russian ties and bribes...
We sure do find ourselves coming back to the Trump administration having friendly ties with Russia over and over and over and over...
You'd think these people would start to realize that maybe, just maybe, there's a possibility that Trump and his crew negotiated with Russia to lift sanctions in exchange for hacking Hillary and helping Trump win the election?
Oh but nope, that's all FAKE NEWS.
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
And thats a real problem. Because in all honesty how many policy goals do you think will change under pense? Do you think the repeal of the aca will stop? How bout environmental policy? Yea okay pence isnt a total incompetent but his america and the donalds are not all that different.
As my cousin said, he voted for Trump because at least Trump told him he will bring jobs back. The fact that Hillary listed education and emerging industry, while Trump just repeated slogans is what worked. No one wants to hear they will need to learn something to compete, we just want jobs handed to us.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi