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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Did you even read the quote I posted? They singled out the communications because of frequency and to who(high level members of the campaign), but as of yet have made no judgments as to the intent of the communications. They also said it isn't unusual for foreign entities to be in touch with presidential campaigns. They've also had this information since December.

    Obama knew about it and didn't act on it. Trump knew about it and only now is acting on it by firing Flynn. It's nothing.
    Did you even read what you posted? You're claiming it to be nothing based on "We haven't reached a judgement yet". If it was actually clearly nothing, they wouldn't hesitate to say "Nothing of significance was found.". Please use the squishy stuff between your ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Did you even read the quote I posted? They singled out the communications because of frequency and to who(high level members of the campaign), but as of yet have made no judgments as to the intent of the communications. They also said it isn't unusual for foreign entities to be in touch with presidential campaigns. They've also had this information since December.
    Yes, the issue is that his staff, of high level, frequently contacted Russia. That is the accusation... not a crime being committed, but the influence as a result of frequent and high level talks with Russia. On same page now?

    Obama knew about it and didn't act on it. Trump knew about it and only now is acting on it by firing Flynn. It's nothing.
    Was Flynn involved meeting and given advice to Trump on any secret information? How do we know he isn't lying about not telling anyone now?

    By the way, Obama and MSM acted on it, it's why Manafort was fired months ago. You just ignored it as fake news...
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  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Pickynerd View Post
    he'd be done already,
    "he'd be done already" - you do realise there is processes that have to be followed - AFTER evidence, comes the rest.

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    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
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  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    "he'd be done already" - you do realise there is processes that have to be followed - AFTER evidence, comes the rest.
    Don't interrupt their fantasy world.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You mean it wouldn't be the same thing he's done for the last year? Why would it change now?
    Well if it doesn't mean anything, then I guess no one should be excited on the other side huh? Guess Mr. Trump can get away with anything, oh well.. Guess it's time to face the facts for a few more years eh?

    Fake news: "Trump busted" by fake news outlet - Action not taken yet, maybe soon™ ? Who knows, more fake news at 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Obama knew about this in December. Didn't do anything with it. If it was such a smoking gun, he would have acted on it immediately.
    What do you mean he did nothing? Obama and MSM has been telling everyone for months about these ties to Russia. You do know Manafort resigned for the same reason months ago? Not 'fired' as Trump's slogan is, but resigned.
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  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Obama knew about this in December. Didn't do anything with it. If it was such a smoking gun, he would have acted on it immediately.
    Done what? What exactly could Obama do ? NOTHING. The only group that can act on this ... CONGRESS.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
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  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    "he'd be done already" - you do realise there is processes that have to be followed - AFTER evidence, comes the rest.
    Oh so now we need evidence? Thought fake news had it already.
    Disarm now correctly removes the targets’ arms.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Rethul Ur No View Post
    I get the feeling that most of these trumpkins that are so quick to threaten armed intervention on them libtards are more Elmer Fudd than Rambo. I'm sure a significant portion of them would just end up shooting themselves before they pose a danger to anyone else.
    The amusing thing is if you actually look at who Trump voters are its basically people who are middle aged and older. By contrast the democrats rely heavily on the under 40's.

    Now if it ever came to actual violence who do you think would have the upper hand?

    A bunch of fifty or older white dudes?

    Or those in their twenties and thirties?
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Done what? What exactly could Obama do ? NOTHING. The only group that can act on this ... CONGRESS.
    Action would have been taken immediately, if evidence existed.
    Disarm now correctly removes the targets’ arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    Did you even read what you posted? You're claiming it to be nothing based on "We haven't reached a judgement yet". If it was actually clearly nothing, they wouldn't hesitate to say "Nothing of significance was found.". Please use the squishy stuff between your ears.
    People are claiming this is the smoking gun to Trump being in the pocket of the Russians and that he was actively working with Russian spies to take down Clinton. That's a lot of law breaking going on there. Considering Barack Obama had this information in December with over a month to work with it before being out of power, he declined to do anything with it so I'm inclined to believe this is a whole lot of nothing and of course they're going to say they haven't made any decisions because they haven't closed the investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickynerd View Post
    Well if it doesn't mean anything, then I guess no one should be excited on the other side huh? Guess Mr. Trump can get away with anything, oh well.. Guess it's time to face the facts for a few more years eh?

    Fake news: "Trump busted" by fake news outlet - Action not taken yet, maybe soon™ ? Who knows, more fake news at 11.
    Yeah, he can get away with anything. People are actively arguing that nothing was done about this before, when Manafort resigned months ago. The defense is litteraly that high level members of his team had frequent talk with Russia. If that's the defense, what exactly is the offense?
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  13. #133
    I'll never understand the lengths at which Trump supporters will go to defend him. I'm not even talking about this one potential story...but in general. Some of them wouldn't even defend their own mothers with this kind of fervor. Not even Mother Theresa had such a loyal following.

    It's ok to criticize or be critical of the person you voted for. It doesn't make you less American.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Pickynerd View Post
    Well if it doesn't mean anything, then I guess no one should be excited on the other side huh? Guess Mr. Trump can get away with anything, oh well.. Guess it's time to face the facts for a few more years eh?

    Fake news: "Trump busted" by fake news outlet - Action not taken yet, maybe soon™ ? Who knows, more fake news at 11.
    I don't think you know what "fake news" is. Although I applaud your attempt to deflect and derail the thread... it failed miserably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    People are claiming this is the smoking gun to Trump being in the pocket of the Russians and that he was actively working with Russian spies to take down Clinton. That's a lot of law breaking going on there. Considering Barack Obama had this information in December with over a month to work with it before being out of power, he declined to do anything with it so I'm inclined to believe this is a whole lot of nothing and of course they're going to say they haven't made any decisions because they haven't closed the investigation.
    Keep it mind if you wanna talk about political shit storms... Obama preventing the president elect from taking power would have been.. uh bad to say the least.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Pickynerd View Post
    Action would have been taken immediately, if evidence existed.
    So the outgoing President is supposed to go wild west sheriff and round up all the corrupt people of the incoming President?....Do you not understand how stupid your suggestion is? There was nothing he could do other than what he did do, which was tell everyone about their ties and encourage questioning.

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    I haven't read all the articles I've seen posted about this.

    But if it is all true, and we end up with President Ryan, what is the end game action/reaction between us and Russia most likely?

  18. #138
    Sounds like so many Dems want to believe in Moby Theory.
    Made by the past it & bald musician Moby



    If anything Conspericy Theorys are not allowed on MMO. And Dems are wanting to believe in them.

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/mo...17-2?r=US&IR=T

    Here’s the full post, which was posted with a picture of President Trump and his chief advisor Steve Bannon below it:

    after spending the weekend talking to friends who work in dc i can safely(well, ‘accurately’…) post the following things:

    1-the russian dossier on trump is real. 100% real. he’s being blackmailed by the russian government, not just for being peed

    on by russian hookers, but for much more nefarious things.

    2-the trump administration is in collusion with the russian government, and has been since day one.

    3-the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast

    of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.

    4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he’s a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch

    brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.

    5-intelligence agencies around the world, and here in the u.s, are horrified by the incompetence of the trump administration, and are

    working to present information that will lead to high level firings and, ultimately, impeachment.

    i’m writing these things so that when/if these things happen there will be a public record beforehand.

    these are truly baffling and horrifying times, as we have an incompetent president who is essentially owned by a foreign power.

    -moby

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    People are claiming this is the smoking gun to Trump being in the pocket of the Russians and that he was actively working with Russian spies to take down Clinton. That's a lot of law breaking going on there. Considering Barack Obama had this information in December with over a month to work with it before being out of power, he declined to do anything with it so I'm inclined to believe this is a whole lot of nothing and of course they're going to say they haven't made any decisions because they haven't closed the investigation.
    It's not the smoking gun, but it is right next to it. It's a picture of a hand holding something blurry, pointed at the victim.

    This is some pretty damning information, and it makes the Flynn thing look tiny in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    People are claiming this is the smoking gun to Trump being in the pocket of the Russians and that he was actively working with Russian spies to take down Clinton. That's a lot of law breaking going on there. Considering Barack Obama had this information in December with over a month to work with it before being out of power, he declined to do anything with it so I'm inclined to believe this is a whole lot of nothing and of course they're going to say they haven't made any decisions because they haven't closed the investigation.
    What laws were broken? Everything you said can be done legally, the issue isn't the legality, but the frequency and the level of contact with Russia. There is nothing illegal about Russia helping Trump win or being "in the pocket" of Russia.
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