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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I don't think you know what "fake news" is. Although I applaud your attempt to deflect and derail the thread... it failed miserably.
    Here's what you do. You report them for trolling and spewing alternative facts as well as derailing the thread. All of them. It's not a discussion if they aren't willing to discuss the serious implications our President is going to be held under.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Obama knew about this in December. Didn't do anything with it. If it was such a smoking gun, he would have acted on it immediately.
    Everybody with 1 eye open could have seen that Trump was/is working with the Russians, 62,984,824 Americans didn't do anything about it...
    "The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference."

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    What I find strange about all of this is we still have been given absolutely no info regarding why they were in contact or what they were talking about. Them being in contact with the Russian gov't in some way isn't in and of itself some horrible thing. Its not like finding out they are all child molestors. The media(cnn at least) just seems to be assuming that they are all compromised Russian agents by virtue of them communicating despite nearly all of them being men who served in the us military for 30+ years and growing up during an era when Russia was the defacto enemy of the usa. I feel like we are getting about 1-3% of the story at most and then being told to just let our imaginations run wild because its Trump.

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    The level of cognitive dissonance needed for americans to not be troubled with things like these. Tremendous! While the Trump administration is essentially promising easing sanctions against Russia behind the scenes, you try to comb over things that you would most likely riot for if the other side did anything even close to this damning. But no, you were busy #butemails and investigating the basement of a pizzeria that didn't exist.

    I could only imagine the online forums if the narratives during the election if it hadn't become a sick parody of itself, and instead a Hillary administration was showing signs of this level of corruption and conflicts of interest. Conway more or less endorsing (Ivanka) Trumps brand? Ah but remember when Michelle Obama did a collaboration with Subway for healthier eating? Well gee that is completely comparable. Oh, and T_D is comparing talking to Russia is comparable to the deal with Iran that had been in motion for years, but it coincided a few months near the release of prisoners, so it was actually a ransom to a terrorist state. Totally the same.

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    facts for ones preferred narrative decided this election and now you have this incompetent, mentally ill buffoon in the White House.
    Jesus tapdancing christ USA, in the future, do the world a favor and make your school education focus heavily on proper source critique from now on, so we can live without another Breitbart President. And also related, the higher divide between "flyover red states" and rich coastal states, the worse it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    I'll never understand the lengths at which Trump supporters will go to defend him. I'm not even talking about this one potential story...but in general. Some of them wouldn't even defend their own mothers with this kind of fervor. Not even Mother Theresa had such a loyal following.

    It's ok to criticize or be critical of the person you voted for. It doesn't make you less American.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    Keep it mind if you wanna talk about political shit storms... Obama preventing the president elect from taking power would have been.. uh bad to say the least.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    So the outgoing President is supposed to go wild west sheriff and round up all the corrupt people of the incoming President?....Do you not understand how stupid your suggestion is? There was nothing he could do other than what he did do, which was tell everyone about their ties and encourage questioning.
    So you let the political puppet obtain power if you actually have the evidence to stop it from happening when you present it to Congress? Please. Of course it'd be a shitstorm, but not the kind you're thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    Sounds like so many Dems want to believe in Moby Theory.
    Made by the past it & bald musician Moby
    Why are you talking about Moby, instead of the intelligence in OP? What is the obsession with celebrities?
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    And for those with the memory of a pregnant goldfish, here's one of the Trump team's frequent denials that any such contact took place. In this case, Mike Pence:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/po...ssia-contacts/

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Did you have an argument to put forth? Obama associated with leftists who would like to flood the US with third worlders. That's worse than talking to the Russians.
    Oh boy, you are desperate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    So the outgoing President is supposed to go wild west sheriff and round up all the corrupt people of the incoming President?....Do you not understand how stupid your suggestion is? There was nothing he could do other than what he did do, which was tell everyone about their ties and encourage questioning.
    While he is in office, he is supposed to take care of the people, but I guess freeing criminals and giving actors medals is far more important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berndorf View Post
    What I find strange about all of this is we still have been given absolutely no info regarding why they were in contact or what they were talking about. Them being in contact with the Russian gov't in some way isn't in and of itself some horrible thing. Its not like finding out they are all child molestors. The media(cnn at least) just seems to be assuming that they are all compromised Russian agents by virtue of them communicating despite nearly all of them being men who served in the us military for 30+ years and growing up during an era when Russia was the defacto enemy of the usa. I feel like we are getting about 1-3% of the story at most and then being told to just let our imaginations run wild because its Trump.
    Talking with Russian intelligence agents, after saying they didn't, looks pretty damn bad. Now lets just see how all the dots end up being connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    Everybody with 1 eye open could have seen that Trump was/is working with the Russians, 62,984,824 Americans didn't do anything about it...
    Are you aware that having only one eye open actually hurts your depth of vision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    So you let the political puppet obtain power if you actually have the evidence to stop it from happening when you present it to Congress? Please. Of course it'd be a shitstorm, but not the kind you're thinking.
    MSM and Obama told you about this months ago, Manafort resigned, you still called it fake news. Now it's fake news because you have memory loss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Talking with Russian intelligence agents, after saying they didn't, looks pretty damn bad. Now lets just see how all the dots end up being connected.
    Nothing they're talking about implicates Trump himself. Just some of the people in his campaign, the big one being Flynn and he's now gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickynerd View Post
    Action would have been taken immediately, if evidence existed.
    Um, and who controlled Congress again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Are you aware that having only one eye open actually hurts your depth of vision?
    Yes, that was his point of saying how easy it is to see. You are actually proving him wrong... which is pretty funny...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    MSM and Obama told you about this months ago, Manafort resigned, you still called it fake news. Now it's fake news because you have memory loss?
    I didn't call it fake news. I said it was nothing then and it's nothing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    Everybody with 1 eye open could have seen that Trump was/is working with the Russians, 62,984,824 Americans didn't do anything about it...
    Just like the e-mails, sweep it under something and carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Um, and who controlled Congress again?
    A bunch of Republicans that hate Trump. You think they're his friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickynerd View Post
    While he is in office, he is supposed to take care of the people, but I guess freeing criminals and giving actors medals is far more important.
    He wasn't allowed to do anything in the last year and a half of his presidency because "You're on the way out". Do you really think he would be allowed to start an investigation directed at the incoming president? If you do, you have no business giving your opinion on anything lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Nothing they're talking about implicates Trump himself. Just some of the people in his campaign, the big one being Flynn and he's now gone.
    No, just the level of his advisors, his judgment and the sort of access Flynn had while being in office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    "Officials emphasized that communications between campaign staff and representatives of foreign governments are not unusual. However, these communications stood out to investigators due to the frequency and the level of the Trump advisers involved. Investigators have not reached a judgment on the intent of those conversations."
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politi...ign/index.html

    Aaaaand it's nothing.
    So if that's the case why has the Trump team been denying it happened since the election?
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