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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    Thats a completly plausible scenario for someone who might have grown in a rough neighborhood. Are we going to treat everyone from rough neighborhoods as if they are criminals now?
    Again I am fine with preventative deportations for people who want to volunteer gang affiliation.

    The alternative is they do nothing, something happens, then the other side of the fence is complaining they didn't do anything when they had a chance.

    His butt fell into a certain spot on the danger matrix and they made a decision.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    I don't buy this.

    If you had a friend who said he has thought about naked kids, but never actually pursued child porn, would you let your kid be around them unsupervised?

    Come on lets get real.

    He admitted he hung out with gang members and even affiliated himself as one voluntarily. I am perfectly OK with precautionary deportations involving criminal groups of people.
    It's not even that. let's say the guy was an official card carrying member of NAMBLA. he himself isn't into kids or has ever been with a child, but he's a member. Would you let that person around your kids?
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by monkmastaeq View Post
    should we just copy and paste the word illegal a few hundred times for you??????
    jaywalking is illegal, it doesn't make you a criminal unless convicted, because of something called presumption of innocence.

    obviously ICE is under strict quotas right now, and if "he's a bad hombre from mexico" is all they need to say about people to deport them, well.... thats not really justice, now is it ?

    He said he was part of a gang!!!! Except... he says he isn't and did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcureanddisease View Post
    So basically ICE is gonna use the dream act and all the personal information handed over to catch and arrest people.
    well huurrr duuur

    That's what you generally do with people who break the law
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    Still don't understand how illegals have no criminal history, being somewhere illegaly is already criminal. Go through the legal ways to stay or leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodelya View Post
    Still don't understand how illegals have no criminal history, being somewhere illegaly is already criminal. Go through the legal ways to stay or leave.
    People probably need to learn the difference between criminal offenses, felonies, misdemeanors, and even civil matters. It would really help, as it would make them look less silly, for instance like when they call someone who has committed a misdemeanor on the same level as a speeding ticket a "criminal".
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    Just because they're prioritizing felons doesn't mean they can't deport everyone else they run into.

    Keep in mind, a huge chunk of the resources ICE uses is just finding people and getting to them. If they just deport all the people they happen to run into itd save them a lot of effort.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Steven French View Post
    "Mr. Ramirez—a self-admitted gang member—was encountered at a residence in Des Moines, Washington, during an operation targeting a prior-deported felon. He was arrested Feb. 10 by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and transferred to the Northwest Detention Center to await the outcome of removal proceedings before an immigration judge with the Department of Justice’s Executive Office for Immigration Review.

    ICE officers took Mr. Ramirez into custody based on his admitted gang affiliation and risk to public safety."

    From ICE themselves. Good riddance gang banger.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by xcureanddisease View Post
    So basically ICE is gonna use the dream act and all the personal information handed over to catch and arrest people.

    What happened to "only criminals" ?



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    hastily copy pasted for propaganda, ended up blown back to his face.
    lol this is the most ridiculous thing i have read today. gj op.

    at last come back and post a reply or something, this ended so quickly. no qq, no drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    Thats a completly plausible scenario for someone who might have grown in a rough neighborhood. Are we going to treat everyone from rough neighborhoods as if they are criminals now?
    Well, the answer I think is... 'sort of'

    If you're part of a group, say, a gang, but have no criminal record, that's fine. It's not illegal, but it does make you part of a threat to society. Nobody will do anything about that. There's nothing illegal about being in a gang.

    If you're part of a group that is technically protected, as long as you don't do anything that might violate that protected status, that's fine too. Nobody will do anything about that. There's nothing illegal about being in the country on the DACA system.

    It's when people are affiliated with both, that there are problems. He knew (or should have) the stipulations of staying in the country, and violated that by making a choice. It's hard to believe that he 'literally had no choice to survive in the US except join a gang and tout that fact'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halicia View Post
    jaywalking is illegal, it doesn't make you a criminal unless convicted, because of something called presumption of innocence.

    obviously ICE is under strict quotas right now, and if "he's a bad hombre from mexico" is all they need to say about people to deport them, well.... thats not really justice, now is it ?

    He said he was part of a gang!!!! Except... he says he isn't and did not.
    not enough face and not enough palm for this. ILLEGAL immigrant so they should be deported , this isn't exactly a hard concept to grasp enter a country ILLEGALLY and you should be deported. JFC

  13. #33
    He was in the country illegally, if wants in a different country he should do it the right way.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by xcureanddisease View Post
    So basically ICE is gonna use the dream act and all the personal information handed over to catch and arrest people.

    What happened to "only criminals" ?



    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15T307
    If entered here illegally, you committed a crime, simple fact.

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