Flynnghazi: Justice Dept. warned WH that advisor vunlnerable to blackmail.

[Noxx79]

Yes, that's the one. It's pre-Spicer. I don't know that she's said anything publicly about this since Spicer flat-out contradicted her.

Back to the shame hole... I mean "counseling"

[Xeones]

She has been consistently called out on her bullshit since day 1 lol. She's done a terrible job the whole time, people just weren't paying attention.

Just because you know it's bull shit doesn't make a difference. The question is have her lies been effective for Trump? And they have incredibly so. I'd argue that people are more misinformed now than they have been at any point since the introduction of mass media. No body knows what news is real or fake any more.

She has done an amazing job and I'd say was instrumental in the chaos occurring now.

[Breccia]

She has done an amazing job and I'd say was instrumental in the chaos occurring now.

Isn't that sentence a contradiction?

[Xeones]

Isn't that sentence a contradiction?

In this case I wasn't saying I approved of her job. I was saying she did amazing at what she set out to do, which was convince people of complete and total bull shit.

[Torgent]

Just because you know it's bull shit doesn't make a difference. The question is have her lies been effective for Trump? And they have incredibly so. I'd argue that people are more misinformed now than they have been at any point since the introduction of mass media. No body knows what news is real or fake any more.

She has done an amazing job and I'd say was instrumental in the chaos occurring now.

His supporters still don't think she's lying. They are willfully ignorant and think she's being "bullied" when they tell her she's wrong or lying. She could get up there and say "Trump cured cancer. He's such a good businessman, that he destroyed it because Healthcare provides jobs!" and his supporters wouldn't be moved to even think to doubt the words of our orange emperor.

So that's to say that using their supporters to say that she's good at lying, is just wrong. They don't care what she says as long as she's on his team.

[NED funded]

r/the_donald is on a meltdown and the mental gymanstics going there are amazing!!

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The framing that wikileaks gave it is hillarious.

Trump's National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4nxw0SWEAAIIBF.jpg …

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/831468455413030912

[Dug]

r/the_donald is on a meltdown and the mental gymanstics going there are amazing!!

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The framing that wikileaks gave it is hillarious.

Trump's National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4nxw0SWEAAIIBF.jpg …

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/831468455413030912

Ahahaha good god if there was ever any doubt about Wikileaks being compromised there sure as shit isn't one now.

[DeadmanWalking]

Ahahaha good god if there was ever any doubt about Wikileaks being compromised there sure as shit isn't one now.

Yeah you would think a website devoted to leaking government information would be lapping this up instead of running Media screens for the Putin Trump Love Child Foundation.

[ringpriest]

Ahahaha good god if there was ever any doubt about Wikileaks being compromised there sure as shit isn't one now.

Yeah... as someone who has supported Wikileaks, its activities, and who thinks Assange has (in the past, I must hasten to point out) advocated some good analysis of globalism, power structures, information, and government, garbage like this is damned embarrassing - you don't even need to look hard in order to see the Russian hand working the mouth. Preventing something like this (a government sock-puppeting his organization) is exactly the sort of thing Assange's cypherpunk, crypto-anarchist skillset should have designed Wikileaks to counter from the get go - either he's incompetent, let his ego (and id) run things way too much, or discovered the brutal efficacy of rubber-hose cryptanalysis (in any case, he ought to have known better), or some mixture of all the above and then some.

[Mormolyce]

Except technological advances create new jobs as well. If we increased our productivity, we could actually "bring back" jobs over to the USA. Someone said this in another thread but 60>0. And those 60 people employed also spend money so more jobs there, Trump is not exactly incorrect on his rhetoric.

Trump's rhetoric is about mindless trade protectionism. If you want to keep your workforce employed in the 21st century you need to educate and up-skill them, not preserve doomed jobs.

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r/the_donald is on a meltdown and the mental gymanstics going there are amazing!!

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The framing that wikileaks gave it is hillarious.

Trump's National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4nxw0SWEAAIIBF.jpg …

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/831468455413030912

Fuck me, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

[NED funded]

Trump's rhetoric is about mindless trade protectionism. If you want to keep your workforce employed in the 21st century you need to educate and up-skill them, not preserve doomed jobs.

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Fuck me, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

For comparison this is the story RT run.
‘Flynn’s resignation victory for mainstream media & Democrats’ – ex-Pentagon official to RT

[ringpriest]

The people who defend everything Trump does are people who at the very least in a subconscious level, want to watch the world burn out of spite. They are many. And the reason is that conservative politicians failed them.

Conservativism is imperative to exist in any society. We need people who when confronted with any new paradigm react by asking everyone to stop and think if we need this to go forward; that is why conservatives exist in societies for. Yet instead of fostering discussions about globalization (and the possibility that it will lionize cultures inimical to ours), automation and artifical intelligence (with the very threat that they will annul the social contract when we have nothing yet ready to replace it with) they doubled down on identity.

The progressive-conservative relation is critical to evolution. Progressives devote their effort in imagining change and putting it into action, conservatives to critical thinking and ensuring that only changes that increase total utility come forward. THEY HAVEN'T DONE THEIR JOB. They just sit there petulantly denying any change.

And thus a good number of people are just left behind. The world is advancing and no one is helping them make any sense of it. You don't get a chance to assimilate to change, no one reassures you about it. For progressives not accepting change seems stupid and they will just tell you so to your face. This just makes people mad, and they will keep electing Trump in the US, fascists and pseudo-communists in the EU and anyone who can promise them to set everything on fire.

American "conservatives", specifically the white, quasi-religious ones (particularly the men) very much are the "special snowflakes" they like to condescendingly label the left (conservative projection - it was a thing even before Trump came along); they exist in a world that revolves around them, and in which, thanks to their inherited success, they face no real threats, and have never had to deal with change - the core anger and fear that drive Trump's supporters are emergent from the reality that cultural, economic, and demographic change has finally started to reach their communities after a half-century of luxurious isolation; and now they get offended at the idea that people speak other languages, and even more offended when rather than enabling their immature outrage, you are instead simultaneously amused and embarrassed for them. <shakes head>

Editing to add: I do agree with you overall - the parable of the gate is a thing that we all need to keep in mind, even (or especially) as the rate of change driven by technology, wealth, and sheer number of human minds climbs towards the vertical.

[Mormolyce]

For comparison this is the story RT run.
‘Flynn’s resignation victory for mainstream media & Democrats’ – ex-Pentagon official to RT

Okay I can't quite get over the fact that when I clicked on this the article on the side panel was "Lenin’s body to be freshened up, given new suit".

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Ask yourself, looking at that picture, can you honestly say Donald Trump is a worthy successor to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosvelt, FDR, or Ronald Reagan, who occupies the very chair he now sits in? Could you imagine Ronald Reagan right there, like that?

Well not that chair. Unless they spent time holidaying in Mar-a-Lago.

[Berengil]

I would rather the Republican Party and Conservatives be a minority party, achieving only modest victories in the face of a liberal majority, for two decades, than to make common cause with these... people... who would turn a blind eye (at best) to Russian aggression against our country in the name of narrow political advantage. In time, as has happened before, the Republican and Democratic Party will achieve an equilibrium as we on the center-right peel of centrists and center left Americans. That (and the reverse) is the recurring theme of 20th century American politics. If that means 20 years of liberalism unbound... well.. you know, we can deal with it. In the end, as Obama put very plainly, this is intramural. We have disagreements, but liberals are not conservatives enemies and vice versa. We're family who disagree.

And that's what you'll get, Skroe.

I 100% guarantee that that if the GOP establishment is seen by those who voted for Trump as deserting him, you're looking at a Dem controlled Congress for at least 8 years, and probably 2 Dem presidents going 2 terms each back to back ( 16 years). Because the Trumpkins will sit at home OR primary GOPers who don't back Trump ( thus producing hard right candidates that will loose to Dems).

After that, I'm at a loss as to how the GOP will rebuild a base. They've relied on the pissed off old religious white people vote since the Southern Strategy began. Whatever emerges on the other side of this will look nothing like the GOP of the 80s/90s.

[Breccia]

After that, I'm at a loss as to how the GOP will rebuild a base..

Ivanka.

Not kidding.

[Halicia]

After that, I'm at a loss as to how the GOP will rebuild a base. They've relied on the pissed off old religious white people vote since the Southern Strategy began. Whatever emerges on the other side of this will look nothing like the GOP of the 80s/90s.

"Freedom of Religion"

If Trump can get Citizen's United applied to religious non-profits, then conservatives have an endless supply of anonymous donations to use however they want.

People don't vote in a democracy, dollars do.

[downnola]

r/the_donald is on a meltdown and the mental gymanstics going there are amazing!!

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The framing that wikileaks gave it is hillarious.

Trump's National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4nxw0SWEAAIIBF.jpg …

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/831468455413030912

So much for the champions of "transparency." It's a shame they threw whatever integrity they supposedly had in the shitter over a few crony capitalist despots.

And then there's this fucking guy:


Why even bother with the Onion when twitter and people like this pair of clownshoes exist?

[thilicen]

r/the_donald is on a meltdown and the mental gymanstics going there are amazing!!

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The framing that wikileaks gave it is hillarious.

Trump's National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4nxw0SWEAAIIBF.jpg …

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/831468455413030912

And the last shred of integrity Wikileaks may have been hanging on to just got incinerated. Good god..

[Skroe]

So much for the champions of "transparency." It's a shame they threw whatever integrity they supposedly had in the shitter over a few crony capitalist despots.

And then there's this fucking guy:


Why even bother with the Onion when twitter and people like this pair of clownshoes exist?

Glenn Greenwald's been a scumbag for years. Pre-Snowden, anyone who read his Guardian CIF musing immersed themselves in the mind of a nut who was only surpassed by Seamus Milne.

[thilicen]

Might not be entirely related, but you've just gotta love Paul Manafort's comments on the alleged contact with russian intelligence:

"It's not like these people are walking around bearing name-tags that say 'Russian intelligence'."