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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Yes, but which one of those statements?
    Is he a Russian plant or not?
    Well - at this stage, and given the article - I don't know if Trump is ignorant or involved. So at this stage all we can say is that ONE of the two is a lie.

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  2. #482
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Caeolela uses the term the conspiracy theorist way, not the legitimate descriptive way.

    There is nothing weird, nor particularly shady, about entrenched bureaucracies and vested interests defending their turf. Anyone who has read one of my NASA posts in the last three years knows exactly what I'm referring to. In that sense the "Deep State" is a rather convenient short hand to reflect the fact that career employees at the CIA or FBI... *gasp*... might have a vested interest in their organization's ability to conduct its business as it sees fit. Shocking stuff I know. I think "Deep State" is a better term than "Federal Bureaucracy" though, because that latter term, at least in my mind, makes me think of all the people working at the Social Security Administration and National Park Service and Nuclear Regulatory Comission... things that have nothing to do with National Security and Foreign Policy.

    But the "Deep State" as a "Shadow Government"? Get the fuck out with that shit, rofl.

    The most likely "leaker" of this stuff isn't the CIA, or the FBI. It's some one from Pence's office on Pence's orders, Steve Bannon, Reince Prebius or an affiliate, or someone in the Senate. That's who typically leaks stuff. It's almost never career employees, never-mind shadowy forces.

    And his theorizing Reince Prebius is a CIA plant is just... wow... that's special.
    What, more of your silly personal attacks based on nothing, supported by the usual faux-intellectual hogwash that I've ripped you a new on on several times in the past year or so? You've been proven wrong or spinning so many times it's gotten boring.

    Maybe you should read some of the people that study deep state politics all the time, have received industry accolades and awards, and have fleshed out more than a few actual conspiracies based on facts and evidence not theory, instead of the typical establishment pablum that you post.

    If you had any experience in the intel field, with real people and situations, instead of sitting on your ass playing with computer codes (or whatever it is you do now) and spewing on websites, you'd know this.

  3. #483
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinpachi View Post
    So? You really think this is going to change anything? Let me put it to you this way. Nothing is going to come of this, at the very least, trump resigns and we get Pence as pres. None of us want that. Trust me.
    You're really new to politics, aren't you?
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  4. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Yes, but which one of those statements?
    Is he a Russian plant or not?
    As of this very moment, we don't know if he is a plant or not. But the dossier that was released from Buzzfeed and CNN a few weeks back is coming out to be more and more true. The very fact that, this is what? The 5th or 6th person from Trump's team from the campaign til his cabinet that has had rather damning ties to Russia? Either Russia is telling Trump who he should hire for cabinet people or Trump really is that dumb to keep nominating people that have these ties. The simple thing here is we just don't know who is the puppetmaster to Trump. We know Trump isn't the smart man behind the curtain for this shit. Hell, there is evidence that Trump can't even fucking read.

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Is not that what Hillary wanted to accomplish with her wanting to attack Syria with Russia backing Assad?
    You think Russia would nuke the US if they attacked Syria?

    What planet do these people live on?

    Also, why the fuck are you still trying to pull "nuh uh, Hillary!"? She's gone, buddy. No hiding behind her anymore. It's just Trump on stage now, front and center.
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  6. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerilis View Post
    Fake news, unconfirmed sources, locker room talk, etc. Okay now we got those covered.
    Trump basically confirmed it this morning saying either FBI or NSA was leaking to New York times.

  7. #487
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Nothing you stated in here is factual. First off, I know I am not Skroe, but he is most certainly not a neo-liberal. He isn't a Hillary supporter at all either but he fucking HATED Trump with a passion because of how retarded Trump is. And this latest bullshit just enhances the retardedness. Also, who the fuck is that source you used?
    Are you fucking nuts or have you just gotten here in the past few weeks?? Skrew was THE biggest Clinton bootlicker on MMO-C during the entire campaign, and all he did was hawk her and trash any Bernie or other supporter he could find. Maybe now that she's toast he's jumped on the next "winner", which is typical of his ilk.

  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Trump basically confirmed it this morning saying either FBI or NSA was leaking to New York times.
    The intelligence community is also fake news.

    Oh wait, only if it's negative for him.

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  9. #489
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Indeed - this of course isn't fake news. Rationality wins.
    Your implication that Trump's campaign/administration team is working with the Russian government at this point is absolutely fake news. You don't know the specific evidences being looked over, nor has an official report on them been released. Based on the articles I've read this information was uncovered around the time Russia was suspected in the DNC hacks (months and months ago) and as of now they haven't found anything that would suggest cooperation between the two.

    Again, this is almost assuredly golden showers gate.

    Gonna bookmark this thread that way a few months from now I can gloat. Impeach Trump on this? lol. There better be a lot more.

  10. #490
    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    What, more of your silly personal attacks based on nothing, supported by the usual faux-intellectual hogwash that I've ripped you a new on on several times in the past year or so? You've been proven wrong or spinning so many times it's gotten boring.

    Maybe you should read some of the people that study deep state politics all the time, have received industry accolades and awards, and have fleshed out more than a few actual conspiracies based on facts and evidence not theory, instead of the typical establishment pablum that you post.

    If you had any experience in the intel field, with real people and situations, instead of sitting on your ass playing with computer codes (or whatever it is you do now) and spewing on websites, you'd know this.
    Skroe may be a dirty, power-hungry neo-con... but he is damn well informed on issue of government. I can definitely disagree with the guy, but not because he's ignorant.

    As for you, I don't think you have much experience at all in such a field. Sure, you may have been enlisted in the military for a single term, and had a low-end job (I even doubt that), but you clearly don't understand policy and the flow of intelligence.

  11. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Are you fucking nuts or have you just gotten here in the past few weeks?? Skrew was THE biggest Clinton bootlicker on MMO-C during the entire campaign, and all he did was hawk her and trash any Bernie or other supporter he could find. Maybe now that she's toast he's jumped on the next "winner", which is typical of his ilk.
    You're saying a Republican didn't want a socialist to win the Democrat primary?

    Wow, what a RINO.
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  12. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by Taneras View Post
    Your implication that Trump's campaign/administration team is working
    Well - as of 4 minutes ago, Trump has declared the NYT report as real:

    "The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!" Donald J. Trump 15-Feb-2017
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...53862281699331
    Last edited by schwarzkopf; 2017-02-15 at 01:20 PM.

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  13. #493
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    No. Because Russia knows that if they shoot off their nukes, they pretty much destroy themselves and the rest of the world. Ever heard of MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction? That is why no one has shot off any nukes against populated areas since WW2.
    Exactly!



    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Probably the fact that, you think they are fake news because you are biased against them. Not that they actually reported something that is fake. You can call them fake news all you want to, but when they have been right literally the last 3 fucking weeks, they aren't fake. But then your sources, either outright ignore it or gloss over it. Simply because it doesn't fit their narrative.
    Im not from America, never been in america even.

    So excuse me if im sometimes are wrong, just speaking from experience, there's a massive amount of constant fake-news here in Sweden, the country is litteraly falling apart with our elderly starving to death, railroads falling apart and constant shootings in the 200 new gettos that has been created in the nearest 15 years.
    With rape-statistics topping the world rankings and "Swedish" getting caught in other countries attempting terror attacks.

    But MSM here's favorite topic is definitively the big bad wolf from the US, so i want to find out the truth, i already know the truth about my own country, and that MSM here are a bunch of liars, all i have to do is go outside and i can see the truth with my own eyes, something i cannot do with your matters as i do not live in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    You think Russia would nuke the US if they attacked Syria?

    What planet do these people live on?

    Also, why the fuck are you still trying to pull "nuh uh, Hillary!"? She's gone, buddy. No hiding behind her anymore. It's just Trump on stage now, front and center.
    Why would the US nuke the US?
    I was replying to the guy who said that DT would pull 5000 nukes on the US.

  14. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    He said A and 11 minutes later said not A ... therefore by definition he was wrong on one of those two occasions.
    Could it be that members of the Intelligence Committee who are angry enough that their candidate didn't win leaked information to various publications who then over exaggerated the story to smear Trump?

    Yes of course that's possible.

    So its not "A" and "not A". It's "A" and "B".

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Well - as of 4 minutes ago, Trump has declared the NYT report as real:

    "The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!" Donald J. Trump 15-Feb-2017
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...53862281699331
    The fact that classified information was leaked doesn't automatically mean that the media's interpretation of that material is correct or not over exaggerated.

    Thanks for playing.

  15. #495
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Even Nixon stepped down instead of ripping the country apart.
    He should have been hung before he was elected for treason when he and his campaign negotiated with North Vietnam to stall peace talks, knowing the ongoing war would hurt the Dems and get him elected.

  16. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by Taneras View Post
    Yes of course that's possible.
    I'm referring to what Trump said, not what actually transpired.

    Trump specifically stated that two opposites occurred - which is impossible. Therefore one of them is a lie.

    Well - he could have no clue, in which case both are lies - but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
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    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  17. #497
    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Are you fucking nuts or have you just gotten here in the past few weeks?? Skrew was THE biggest Clinton bootlicker on MMO-C during the entire campaign, and all he did was hawk her and trash any Bernie or other supporter he could find. Maybe now that she's toast he's jumped on the next "winner", which is typical of his ilk.
    I have been reading his posts for the last few years actually. Probably since the 2012 election or so. I may not agree with him on everything but calling him a Clinton bootlicker because he didn't want the current dumbass in office is probably the most retarded thing I have ever seen anyone say about @Skroe. Sorry, but you don't live in a place called reality.

  18. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by Taneras View Post
    The fact that classified information was leaked doesn't automatically mean that the media's interpretation of that material is correct or not over exaggerated.
    Ah - I remember the joys of youthful delusion too, but back to reality.

    He was COMMENTING on the NYT release... he called it classified information.

    Oh wait - he could be lying of course

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
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    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    I'm referring to what Trump said, not what actually transpired.

    Trump specifically stated that two opposites occurred - which is impossible. Therefore one of them is a lie.

    Well - he could have no clue, in which case both are lies - but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
    It seems to me that you're always making threads about unconfirmed rumors that almost always end up being false, and otherwise uncontrollably exaggerated.

    For instance, nothing here is official. They are allegations.
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  20. #500
    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    He should have been hung before he was elected for treason when he and his campaign negotiated with North Vietnam to stall peace talks, knowing the ongoing war would hurt the Dems and get him elected.
    Sounds familiar.

    But again, Nixon stepped down, Trump won't.
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