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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Are you fucking nuts or have you just gotten here in the past few weeks?? Skrew was THE biggest Clinton bootlicker on MMO-C during the entire campaign, and all he did was hawk her and trash any Bernie or other supporter he could find. Maybe now that she's toast he's jumped on the next "winner", which is typical of his ilk.
    In my experience, Skroe is simply a conservative. His reaction to Trump wasn't even unique to conservatives, as several historically conservative news papers didn't endorse the republican nominee. You have fallen for the divisive rhetoric, where opposing Trump meant you were a Hillary supporter. Trump is not your regular candidate...

    Just an FYI, unlike just about every single candidate from the two party system, Hillary was the objectively better candidate. You can feel she was worse or the same, but the only thing you really needed to vote Hillary over Trump, is looking at their resumes. This isn't something that is true in previous elections, as usually the issue between candidates is the area of experience in government. Trump is the first president to never serve in any public office nor ever have an education remotely associated with governance. Trump's sister, who is a lower circuit judge, would have been objectively better candidate than Trump him self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taneras View Post
    He said that information
    He posted two tweets 11 minutes apart - the first one explicitly referred to the NYT article, the second one implicitly referring to the article via referencing the publishers of said information.

    That is - both tweets were about the EXACT SAME thing, one calling it information and one calling it nonsense.

    Therefore - logic states that ONE of the two tweets is a lie at best. Of course, if he is clueless both are lies.

    If you deny this, then you deny that 2+2=4.

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    Trump always whines like a baby about "fake news" no matter how true it is, or if he forgot that he said the shit himself.
    Gee...how coincidental that Trump campaigners were having meet and greets with Russian intel officials at the same the time Clinton emails were being hacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaniac17 View Post
    It's tribalism. They have accepted Trump as the leader of their tribe. He can do no wrong. It's a good way to think if your survival depends on fitting into a group, but not in this day and age when you can just find an alternative.
    The anti-Trump crowd is even worse, they are at the point where they are willing to destroy the country because of their irrational hatred of Trump. Trump won the election because of his message, it isn't because Russian spies hacked the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisnumbers View Post
    Is there something that forbids them from "being in contact" with certain Russians?
    Hopefully someone here can cite some law or something, I'm no expert. I'd like to read it.
    No, there is not. However, there is a certain amount of common sense you should exercise when assisting or running a presidential bid on who you should or should not speak with to avoid people getting any ideas about collusion, bias or general wrongdoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    You're saying a Republican didn't want a socialist to win the Democrat primary?

    Wow, what a RINO.
    Yep. He was a Repub, except when he wasn't. What he is is a self-centered opportunist. Like the guy that picks the winning team until they get behind a few points, then switches to the other team and claims he was for them the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Sorry but your reasoning saying that Hillary would start a nuclear war with Russia doesn't live in this place called reality. Neither is your bullshit about the news. You obviously are parroting idiots that claim that the media is nothing but left wing bullshit. But don't know that the reality is, that the right wing sources lie magnitudes more often than anything the left has. The video that you posted, didn't help your case at all.
    Makes as much sense to me as you guys saying that Donald Trump would start a Nuclear War.

    It might look like i am saying that media is bullshit, but i am pointing out that not everything MSM says is correct.
    It is also unfair to compare the two, comparing a few huge companies with professionals to amaturs that get virtually zero founding that is often a maze of disinformation is not fair.

    I can tell an obvious lie when i hear one, and MSM here in my country are constantly misinterpreting information all the time and will only show one side of an issue at hand. You have to go to alternative media to read what's going on in this country as MSM are either silent, misinterpreting or downright lying.

    I've been following Donald Trump since the start, the guy makes mistakes, all the time, he lies, all the time, it is nothing new.
    Yet he got voted for President, a liar and crook as he is became the president, and people who voted for him knew that.

    They voted on him, for a different reason, not because of his honesty or decency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    At least Bush won't be considered the worst president anymore.
    Obama already won that.

    Can you say "high treason?"
    Hillary? Yeah she should be locked up.

    Sorry but your reasoning saying that Hillary would start a nuclear war with Russia doesn't live in this place called reality
    Seems like you don't live in Reality either, Russia hated Hillary and vice visa, There would have been a way higher chance at that happening if hillary has won, Why take the chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Skrew is basically full of crap, and he only knows what he copies from websites that reinforce his idiotic, self-centered, greed-driven worldview. I and others have proven him to be the most disingenuous bullshitter on this site, repeatedly. If I had time or cared enough to do so, I'd pull up thread after thread to that effect.

    The latest was his horseshit on Rex Tillerson and Robert Gates, which when confronted he tried his usual squirm to back out of. But again it didn't work. I think too during the campaign he claimed to be some kind of centrist or New Democrat...of course that was when he rabidly supported Clinton. Now he's suddenly a "conservative"? Please.

    The pathetic thing is, he's good at playing to people's preconceived notions, that makes them think he has some credibility because they want to believe it anyway. A variation on the limited hangout theme:

    ...a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further.

    From what I've seen of your posts, I have to laugh at you even pretending to critique anything I've said or my xp or what I understand or "don't". "Flow of intelligence"? Thanks, I'll use that one at my next meeting.
    Did the people in the meeting tell you to say "deep state?"

    Was that one of the talking points, yesterday? You made ridiculous claims, and then rambled on like a conspiracy theorist. Honestly, you sounded like the people who claim that no plane crashed into the Pentagon. Yeah, I don't think for a second you are in the intelligence field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reclaimer View Post
    Obama already won that.



    Hillary? Yeah she should be locked up.
    Deflection never gets old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reclaimer View Post
    Obama already won that.
    Yes - Republicans certainly succeeded in their job there ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Reclaimer View Post
    Hillary? Yeah she should be locked up.
    Well, if Hillary is deserving of being locked up, half of Trump's inner circle are deserving of 100+ consecutive executions. Each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reclaimer View Post
    Obama already won that.
    And Trump won it in one month of his inauguration.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reclaimer View Post
    Hillary? Yeah she should be locked up.
    Wrong thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    If you don't consider Trump's words confirmation - that's fine, however he is the current so called president, so his words hold weight.
    He said he knew there was call between the US and Russia, but he didn't know it was with secret services, nor is there proof there is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Sorry, but I will go with Schwarzkopf on this one. Considering the information has been basically confirmed, since they have RECORDED FUCKING PHONE CALLS.
    And who, tell me, had access to these phone calls? Were you able to listen to them? I mean, obviously they might be in Russian, but we have Russian people on this board. So I'm confident we would've been able to get the real content from these call regardless. Why is it allegations, again? Why no substance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    The anti-Trump crowd is even worse, they are at the point where they are willing to destroy the country because of their irrational hatred of Trump. Trump won the election because of his message, it isn't because Russian spies hacked the election.
    Are you going to discount all of this information that came to light in the past couple days? It would seem that Trump was "willing to destroy the country" in order to win.

    In the end, we have a very corrupt businessman, and a shitty excuse for a human being, whose campaign was in contact with Russian intelligence agents. Feel free to deflect from that all you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Yes - Republicans certainly succeeded in their job there ...
    It's now appearing that they had help from Russia. (although I would presume that most never knew of such help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Skrew is basically full of crap, and he only knows what he copies from websites that reinforce his idiotic, self-centered, greed-driven worldview. I and others have proven him to be the most disingenuous bullshitter on this site, repeatedly. If I had time or cared enough to do so, I'd pull up thread after thread to that effect.
    He is one of the few people on this forum who actually adds anything new to the topic. Unlike most posts, his knowledge of military and governance is second to none, as far as usual forum posters. Unlike most people who focus on denigrating an ideology, he actually provides facts.

    Think of it this way, your first complaint about him in above post, is that he provides references for his assertions.

    The latest was his horseshit on Rex Tillerson and Robert Gates, which when confronted he tried his usual squirm to back out of. But again it didn't work. I think too during the campaign he claimed to be some kind of centrist or New Democrat...of course that was when he rabidly supported Clinton. Now he's suddenly a "conservative"? Please.
    He has always been conservative... you are just falling for the divisive rhetoric, where dogging Trump, meant he was a Hillary supporter. Something that wasn't unique during this elections, where even historically conservative publications did the same as Scroe in face of Trump.

    The pathetic thing is, he's good at playing to people's preconceived notions, that makes them think he has some credibility because they want to believe it anyway. A variation on the limited hangout theme:

    ...a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further.

    From what I've seen of your posts, I have to laugh at you even pretending to critique anything I've said or my xp or what I understand or "don't". "Flow of intelligence"? Thanks, I'll use that one at my next meeting.
    Your whole assertion is based on a preconceived notion, that simply isn't true. He was posting here for years before the election. Try reading those and then come back and say the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodElf4Life View Post
    He said he knew there was call between the US and Russia, but he didn't know it was with secret services, nor is there proof there is.
    I've already said that we don't know Trump's involvement at the time - yet. The NYT article, which Trump has confirmed as real (see above tweet) - only relates to his inner circle, not him personally.

    However - at some point between then and now he must have found out ... when he found out, that's the critical information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    In my experience, Skroe is simply a conservative. His reaction to Trump wasn't even unique to conservatives, as several historically conservative news papers didn't endorse the republican nominee. You have fallen for the divisive rhetoric, where opposing Trump meant you were a Hillary supporter. Trump is not your regular candidate...
    Sorry but I haven't fallen for anything. During the campaign, when I'd say anything remotely against Clinton, our snake Skrew here would instantly brand me a "Berniebro" or "Sanderista!", like he would anyone else that pointed out the Clinton BS. This after repeatedly informing him that I didn't support Trump, Clinton, or Sanders.

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    I think I just got a Trump Tweet Bingo!

    -Deflect to Clinton
    -Deflect to Obama
    -Call CNN Fake News
    -Praise Fox
    -Insult Intelligence Community
    -Moan about leaks.

    Woo! In an hour too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    It's now appearing that they had help from Russia. (although I would presume that most never knew of such help.
    Report only goes back 1 year, so no evidence that Republicans were involved in Russian stuff in general.

    No coincidence that the majority of those implicated aren't rank and file GoP - rather odds and sods from other areas. Trump himself isn't even a real GoP.

    GoP have been a party of people whose policies I disagreed with strongly, but never crazy enough to do this sort of thing...

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