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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    See this is a contradiction in Trumplandia. If people want Health insurance they should just get a job but apparently there's no jobs to go around because China and robots...
    "If you want a job, pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Stop being lazy and expecting free handouts!"

    "Omg these college kids are talking down to me when all I want is the government to bring my job back!"

    Every day, I believe I've seen the lowest of the low when it comes to Trumpkins, and then they surprise me by pushing the bar down even lower.
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    Well unfortunately Trump won't solve this guys problems.
    In fact, he's going to create more problems and inestability. Who do you think pays for this? The working families he's so desperately trying to appeal for.

    The demands he should be listing to should not be towards the politians, but his fellow country man, who wholeheartedly are against any type of economic help towards strugling families. Relying on populists to help you goes right into the phrase "do you know who you trust?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    There will be when the illegal aliens are gone. There will be MILLIONS.
    Article just came out in the Houston Chronicle(a liberal rag I might add) that stated there are 1.1 million illegals in Houston/Dallas alone. http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texa...s-10934318.php
    You think illegal immigrants are working jobs that provide healthcare? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerilis View Post
    In the reality I live in - Europe - I even get healthcare when I have no job. But I guess that's evul socialism.
    I'm also pretty sure voting for the party with a questionable stance against healthcare all along, not mentioning fighting it at every step, will surely help their situation, no?
    There was healthcare here before ACA without socialism. It is called Medicare and Medicaid. They still exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taneras View Post
    Faking outrage and making assertions isn't a rational argument. If you want to make a rational argument try again.
    This is precisely the reply I would expect. Deflection and obfuscation - and it's precisely how someone like Trump was elected.

    The rational arguments were already made - you ignored them, and now we have what amounts to a traitor in the White House. It's not my fault you didn't pay attention to what we were telling you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    There will be when the illegal aliens are gone. There will be MILLIONS.
    Article just came out in the Houston Chronicle(a liberal rag I might add) that stated there are 1.1 million illegals in Houston/Dallas alone. http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texa...s-10934318.php

    Uh huh, riiight. They're going to take those jobs. Go to McDonald's. Go to every fast food restaurant in your city. They're all hiring. Why aren't people taking those jobs? You think they're going to take jobs that are harder and pay less? You've truly bought into the trump lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Then why isn't the first thing sessions is doing as ag is prosecuting Hillary? If it's such a big deal? He should have started yesterday.
    You nor I have any idea what the FBI and AG are up to right now. Do you have some special insight that you'd like to share?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenseiei View Post
    Well unfortunately Trump won't solve this guys problems.
    In fact, he's going to create more problems and inestability. Who do you think pays for this? The working families he's so desperately trying to appeal for.

    The demands he should be listing to should not be towards the politians, but his fellow country man, who wholeheartedly are against any type of economic help towards strugling families. Relying on populists to help you goes right into the phrase "carefull what you wish for".
    Mind sharing the next weeks lotto numbers with me? Clairvoyance can come in handy, hopefully not only for the negative things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    You think illegal immigrants are working jobs that provide healthcare? lol
    No...
    Where in that quote did I state they did? Please do tell...
    Don't make yourself look the fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellmoo View Post
    But nothing he says is solved by voting for Trump. Sure he has some points with some truth to them, but there isn't any real "meat" to the decision of voting Trump over Clinton here.
    There lies the rub. Trump made vague promises (e.g. MAGA) that said what they wanted to hear (MAGA meant jobs for everyone in any industry...or pretty much anything else that Trump voters decided to insert into such vague promises). Clinton's answers involved thought, so were dismissed out of hand by most Trump voters.

    Simple "truths" are like candy; they don't have sustenance, but they taste good. Reality isn't simple, but is where sustenance lies and many times has a bitter aftertaste.

    Guess which one Trump supporters ate up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerilis View Post
    I can't watch the video right now, but... what could be more important than everyone having equal rights?
    You would think the last 8 years and the 8 years Bill was in charge that equal rights would have happened....

    Or maybe no matter what you do a group of people will always believe someone has it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I wanted to open a discussion as to how the coast sees things, and how the mid west sees things.

    We on the coasts tend to be more on the liberal side. We have plenty of jobs and opportunities as this is where many people live, in heavily populated states.

    However, in the midwest, there are not as many opportunities, and not as many jobs. The man in this video explains in more details, feel free to give it a watch, and maybe try and understand how the midwest felt about this election.



    What do you think about this message? If you feel that all Trump supporters are just racist bigots, do you take into consideration the things that are more important to these people? More important than LBGT rights?
    But Trump won't help these people. He used them becuase they are either desperate or simply lack understanding.
    He won becuase he fooled these people into thinking he was fighting for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scathbais View Post
    You nor I have any idea what the FBI and AG are up to right now. Do you have some special insight that you'd like to share?


    You apparently think it's s huge deal. It's clearly not. Actions are louder than words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Nope.
    If Trump's message didn't reach the rust belt how did he win the rust belt? It's been nearly 30 years since a Republican won Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    No...
    Where in that quote did I state they did? Please do tell...
    Don't make yourself look the fool.
    But there aren't any jobs right? And the republican states refused to expand Medicare and Medicaid You're contradicting yourself, which shows how little of a point you have.
    to which you said

    There will be when the illegal aliens are gone. There will be MILLIONS.
    Which jobs are those? And which of those jobs provide health insurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    Mind sharing the next weeks lotto numbers with me? Clairvoyance can come in handy, hopefully not only for the negative things!
    You don't have to do clairvoyance to know the most probable outcome of his politic agenda, just a bit of economics. "Probable" is the closest thing anyone can say to any outcome, since all is probability, and it's never 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    There was healthcare here before ACA without socialism. It is called Medicare and Medicaid. They still exist.
    And apparently it was so good, that it required replacement. Well, or maybe it wasnt affordable for just everyone, what brings us back to step one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Uh huh, riiight. They're going to take those jobs. Go to McDonald's. Go to every fast food restaurant in your city. They're all hiring. Why aren't people taking those jobs? You think they're going to take jobs that are harder and pay less? You've truly bought into the trump lie.
    And you have bought into the liberal lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    You apparently think it's s huge deal. It's clearly not. Actions are louder than words.
    As I said, they may or may not be reopening the investigation, but neither you nor I nor the general public will be told unless they announce it publicly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taneras View Post
    If Trump's message didn't reach the rust belt how did he win the rust belt? It's been nearly 30 years since a Republican won Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin.


    I answered the question. You cut out the answer.

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