When rabid Bernie Bros are asked to provide examples of this, they always seem to come up empty handed. They'll scream something about email collaboration, but that's not an example of actively trying to undermine Bernie. The Clinton campaign's attacks on Bernie (if you can even call them that) were mild as best.
When rabid Bernie Bros do come up with "examples" of scathing attacks on Bernie, it turns out the commercials, ads, and articles they provide were written by conservatives back when they were attacking Bernie for being a socialist.
And the funniest part is, these same conservatives who were absolutely eviscerating Bernie for being a poor, socialist, old man, began concern trolling after he lost the primary. "Oh no Bernie, those Democrats were so unfair to you! Fight back! Don't support Clinton! Please forget that we were viciously attacking you before all of this."
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
And the Republicans had reams of opposition research on Bernie that they were holding back in case he got the nomination. Multiple journalists have seen them.
Bernie would have been raked over the coals all summer as a "Communist", and naive Rust Belt voters would still have chosen a Billionaire over a Communist.
Help control the population. Have your blood elf spayed or neutered.
I'm more bringing into the fact that most folks don't care so much about sexual misconduct. Admittedly I was surprise at how popular Clinton stayed after his scandal, he even had scandals before he was elected and it didn't seem to matter. That was my wake up call. People who are still going on about Trump and his "Grab'em by the pussy" comment is ignoring the precedent set by Bill's popularity afterwards. That folks don't care that much about it.
Oddly Gary Hart and that other guy John Edwards, didn't fair so well in light of their sexual opps. Granted Edwards issues were more because of his dipping in the election pot.
Help control the population. Have your blood elf spayed or neutered.
Hahahaha.
We're two partisans in a pod man, it's alright I'm not holding it against you. The more partisans the better.
The best candidate? Jesus that must be some strong koolaid. NO candidate running in 2016 was worth a damn, not a single one. If you want to give her a 'the best of a shit bunch' award by all means, though of course an insane number of people will not only disagree but laugh at it.
The Fresh Prince of Baudelaire
Banned at least 10 times. Don't give a fuck, going to keep saying what I want how I want to.
Eat meat. Drink water. Do cardio and burpees. The good life.
What does it matter what I think? That's what happened. Why are you asking me about facts?
My point is that you hand wave abysmal behavior and actions from Trump as equivalent to what you listed above (and before). And they are not.
And that's the thesis of my point.
You make a ridiculous argument that what you listed above is equivalent to a President "grabbing them by the pussy" (what a terrific role model for young women) and all the other absolutely horrible behavior by Trump is the same - and it's not, by any logical or rational evaluation.
Then when people respond, you claim "fake outrage" and "fake news", the typical Trumper deflection and obfuscation that never worked on anyone with a rash of intelligence.
We knew beforehand that Trump was talking to Russia - "fake news"! Whoops, guess it wasn't. We knew he was a horrible person with women and people who worked for him - "fake news"! Whoops, guess it wasn't. We knew he was only out for himself and would not divest or blind trust any of his assets, and make the White House his personal cash machine - "fake outrage"! Whoops, guess we were right.
Every accusation against Trump has been proven correct, but emails are more important than treason, so now we have President Cheetor literally ruining this country.
His Impeachment can't happen fast enough.
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The only people chugging kool-aid at this point are the people backing Trump. Hillary wasn't the best candidate for a variety of reasons - but she sure as shit was the best in 2016 (of those that could have gotten elected - not in the primary, talking general).
can't know they lied till they get into power, hell the most issues people have with trump right now seems to be he is trying to carry though with his promises even some of the dumb ones, and if the Dem's didn't seem to be helping them that much under the last 8 years why as a party should they get more chances.
The Fresh Prince of Baudelaire
Banned at least 10 times. Don't give a fuck, going to keep saying what I want how I want to.
Eat meat. Drink water. Do cardio and burpees. The good life.
Waaaahh i think all the moderators are out to get us.
Working class, working class parents, working class......
meanwhile what has trump done in the first month? Giveaways to the rich and corporations. Bank deregulation, oil company deregulation, environmental roll backs, etc etc
He sold out his entire cabinet to the very people Trump supporters were railing about. I mean how many times did we hear about Hillary and Goldman?? Now they litter his cabinet and support staff.
You gave the wolf the keys to the hen house.
He is Hillary with a Penis.
She lost because she did not make enough promises that cannot be accomplished then trump did, in 4 states. If she went hog crazy promising the world to these people she would have won. Shame these people will realize this too late to actually help themselves.
My favorite is bringing back car manufacturing to the US when they have such a huge glut of inventory there will be no expansion of manufacturing. You can't restore jobs lost to Robots and you cannot fight slave labor just by making promises.
Exactly. This is all Trumpers have left - the same tired deflection and obfuscation.
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Thanks, again, for proving my point. Let us know if you want out of the kiddie room for big-boy talk. Or were you actually going to provide any "rational arguments" - lol. Jesus, you fucking Trumpers crack me up.
Keep on chugging away.
There where states where it was close -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Result...rimaries,_2016
And if you don't think that a party pretending to be fair but working behind closed doors to undermine a candidate is wrong? Well I guess that's why you would support Hillary. If it was over blown the DNC chairwoman Debbie Schultz wouldn't have stepped down.
Fair enough, but the guy that was defending his vote cited sexism to be one of the reasons he voted the way he did yet the guy he voted for has said that he can grab em by the pussy because he can do anything due to his fame. That's hypocrisy right there. AND what Bill Clinton did was not sexist, it was a bit kinky and not how the President should act, but it was between 2 consenting adults.