Trump Supporter Explains Why Trump Won

[LaserChild9]

One I think both Hillary and trump are useless, two if I can play the system to save myself money, dam straight I'll do it, you'd have to be a moron not to.

Fair enough, but it's an indefensible act. You can't champion a cause and then when you win decide that the rule only applies to you. He didn't say "I will bring back jobs for american's except in my own companies and interests" and if he had I'm sure a lot of people would have voted differently.

[Paranoid Android]

The transgender bathroom issue is a great example. This isn't the left pushing identity politics. These are new and rewritten laws based on identity politics, which is not being pushed by the left. Those who are against these new laws are not the ones pushing identity politics. Just like in this video, when the speaker tells you they are getting lynched while the left is all about identity, he turns to his black friend and apologized for saying lynched. That is an example of being PC, the only difference is that this guy was his friend, so he apologized... yet, he didn't even notice...

Quote her calling anyone a bigot. What are the odds that you are ignoring what he stance on social issues actually was, because you were convinced to ignore it, to focus on "bigot"? How did she go too far? Trump was the one who closed the first debate by bitching how he was terrorized by Rosie O'Donnel, despite no one mentioning it during the whole debate? Was it Hillary who brought Paula Jones to the debates?

This is the transcript taking directly from the Town Hall Meeting with Chris Hayes and Bernie Sanders in Kenosha, Wisconsin. This one part talks about Muslim or religious bands but basically the rhetoric that Trump used throughout the whole campaign. Both Trump supporters quickly deflected that this will never happen since congress with check Trump.

I honestly am with you and that these people looked past the racial rhetoric since they really don't care about the injustices of these people. They really want to hide their bigotry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But it`s – it`s scary to see, you know, to know that
neighbors, family members, you know, may look past the threat that Trump
poses to our very livelihood just because they wanted something different.

SANDERS: – what Reema is saying – let me just throw it out there. She
is saying that Trump won a whole lot of votes based on bigotry, trying to
turn one group of people against the other.

What do you guys think?

AUGUSTINE: No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

SANDERS: OK, well, just tell us.

AUGUSTINE: He – he stirred a dialogue. There is not one person in this
room, Democrat or Republican or Independent that would have allowed
anything to happen like that, even our Congress. That would not be
acceptable to anybody. And he just started a dialogue and the dialogue has
changed and it`s gotten better.

None of that`s ever going to happen. It was not even what –

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s proposing legislation –

AUGUSTINE: He`s proposing –

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s proposing -

AUGUSTINE: You can pro –

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: – a national registry. He`s proposing removing DAPA
and DACA. These are (INAUDIBLE)

AUGUSTINE: In the first place, you can`t promote that – that`s anti-
religious. It`s against our Constitution.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I agree.

AUGUSTINE: That`s never going to pass. And even if it went to the Supreme
Court, I don`t care, it would be thrown out. He can propose all he wants,
it`s going to go through our Congress first. That`s another buffer zone we
have.

HAYES: Do – do other people – this is something that I encounter a lot
when I talk to Trump voters who would – who would – who would say very
similar things. They would basically say the things that he says that are
the worst things, like the Muslim ban, for instance, that like that`s just
him talking smack, basically. And it`s not going to happen.

Is that – I`m curious what you three think about?

Like is that how you thought of it or do you think like I hope he does that
or –

SEBENA: No, I hope he does not do that. No. I mean I would never want to
see anybody thrown out just because of their beliefs or their reli – I
mean that`s awful. No.

I put in bold the best I could of the Trump voter saying that none of this would every happen. Trump voters mentioned it was about jobs, okay I understand the struggle. To ignore the all the other baggage Trump brings and just to say; "That will never happen". Seems to me you do not want to acknowledge the bigotry of Trump.

[LaserChild9]

I don't see how saying "Because I'm famous, women will let me grab them" is sexist myself. He didn't say all women are inferior and because of that I can grab them by the kitty. Given the endless number of stories from Rock Stars, athletes and actors, I still think what he said has some truth, fame will get your a lot more than than being a plumber. Maybe he is a sexist or maybe he thinks or has experienced a section of women that will give it up, just because of fame or fortune. His platform wasn't put women back in the kitchen.

A lot of women don't like being objectified, he basically reduced them to a pretty object he can kiss and grope because he's famous. Your mom and wife probably voted for him and support him so they defend his actions just like you are. The fact is, that one comment upset enough people that they started the grab your wallet movement, in addition to that there's a reason it made the headlines globally and that is because you want world leaders to act with a certain level of decorum and bragging to your friends about groping women is definitely not something you want to hear from the most powerful man in the world.

[Mad_Murdock]

A lot of women don't like being objectified, he basically reduced them to a pretty object he can kiss and grope because he's famous. Your mom and wife probably voted for him and support him so they defend his actions just like you are. The fact is, that one comment upset enough people that they started the grab your wallet movement, in addition to that there's a reason it made the headlines globally and that is because you want world leaders to act with a certain level of decorum and bragging to your friends about groping women is definitely not something you want to hear from the most powerful man in the world.

Nope none of the 3 of us voted for him. I have no vested interested in defending him any more than Bill. If it was half the big deal you believe it is, he wouldn't have won. Folks didn't really care enough about it to make it a election ending event.

[Felya]

This is the transcript taking directly from the Town Hall Meeting with Chris Hayes and Bernie Sanders in Kenosha, Wisconsin. This one part talks about Muslim or religious bands but basically the rhetoric that Trump used throughout the whole campaign. Both Trump supporters quickly deflected that this will never happen since congress with check Trump.

I honestly am with you and that these people looked past the racial rhetoric since they really don't care about the injustices of these people. They really want to hide their bigotry.

I put in bold the best I could of the Trump voter saying that none of this would every happen. Trump voters mentioned it was about jobs, okay I understand the struggle. To ignore the all the other baggage Trump brings and just to say; "That will never happen". Seems to me you do not want to acknowledge the bigotry of Trump.

Here is another fun part to consider, if he is lying about doing this, why isn't he lying about jobs?

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This is where everyone laughs and stops reading.

No, not everyone, just you. The shit you say, isn't everyone's opinion. Might want to take responsibility for the shit coming out of your mouth at some poin.

Why do you think I emphasized little so? I'm explicitly showing you them demonizing the solution by Soros, while glorifying the same solution with Trump. Would those three children they are using to justify it now, been saved if they didn't build an opposition to it 6 months ago... even a little?

[undeadmoon]

There was healthcare here before ACA without socialism. It is called Medicare and Medicaid. They still exist.

I make too much to qualify for either of those in my state, and yet pre ACA, I could not get healthcare because I have several pre-existing conditions, and the one insurance that was willing to take me wanted more than I am paid in 3 weeks for coverage, coverage that wouldn't even help with my prescriptions I need to live. I am not alone, and every time someone screams "THERE WAS HEALTHCARE BEFORE!!!!" there are numerous people like myself who speak and say the same thing: there are too many "contributing" Americans for whom that isn't true, and for whom being a drain on the ER/Clinic system, being buried in medical debts, becoming unemployed due to manageable illnesses, and/or dying isn't an answer.

ACA was not perfect, it was a gutted bill made worse by states refusing the federal funds that would've expanded their state Medicare and Medicaid programs that would have taken some of the burden off of the middle and lower classes people like you keep championing for.

How about you crow about the state politicians that would deny their constituents aid, or about the ones who helped gut the single payer option? Nah that doesn't fit your narrative, instead it's all the evil socialist Obama and his cronies fault.

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The thing is, Trump has made his fortune (barring the million-dollar loan from Daddy) conning his way to the top. His entire business history has a laundry list of small contractors and businesses left bankrupt after he short-charged them or refused to pay them outright while he made off with millions through golden parachutes or by exploiting the tax code. He is a very skilled con artist

Also, as someone who lives in a state where Trump has had many business dealings, and has been inside more than one of them and seen some of the behind the scenes of it, the quoted is pretty much the long and the short of it.

The man is a modern day snake oil salesman of a sort.

[shoegazing]

I do not think this guy knows what "neoliberal" means if he thinks it has anything to do with social justice, rofl....

[LaserChild9]

Nope none of the 3 of us voted for him. I have no vested interested in defending him any more than Bill. If it was half the big deal you believe it is, he wouldn't have won. Folks didn't really care enough about it to make it a election ending event.

Fair enough, but again, just because you, your wife and your mom didn't find it sexist does not change the fact that a lot of people did and the guy in the video said he voted the way he did because he didn't like the sexism on the left.

[Glorious Leader]

The transgendered issue is a really good example of how you can take any topic and make.it absurd and claim pc culture is.nuts when theirs actually really substantive debate to be had, namely how will the state define and decide personhood?

[Mad_Murdock]

Fair enough, but again, just because you, your wife and your mom didn't find it sexist does not change the fact that a lot of people did and the guy in the video said he voted the way he did because he didn't like the sexism on the left.

Well, that's where we are at an impasse, 62 million found it sexist, 59 million didn't. (whatever the voting numbers were). So if you're in the group that doesn't believe it was sexists, it's not really a contradiction to say, "I'm tired of the sexism over there and so I'm voting over here." You'd have to talk to the fella specifically to find out why he didn't find it sexists and what he feels is sexists about the left. And I'll concede it's very possible that the fella does have a double standard, where he considers one thing OK and another thing bad, where he should consider them both bad or both OK.

[Allybeboba]

I make too much to qualify for either of those in my state, and yet pre ACA, I could not get healthcare because I have several pre-existing conditions, and the one insurance that was willing to take me wanted more than I am paid in 3 weeks for coverage, coverage that wouldn't even help with my prescriptions I need to live. I am not alone, and every time someone screams "THERE WAS HEALTHCARE BEFORE!!!!" there are numerous people like myself who speak and say the same thing: there are too many "contributing" Americans for whom that isn't true, and for whom being a drain on the ER/Clinic system, being buried in medical debts, becoming unemployed due to manageable illnesses, and/or dying isn't an answer.

ACA was not perfect, it was a gutted bill made worse by states refusing the federal funds that would've expanded their state Medicare and Medicaid programs that would have taken some of the burden off of the middle and lower classes people like you keep championing for.

How about you crow about the state politicians that would deny their constituents aid, or about the ones who helped gut the single payer option? Nah that doesn't fit your narrative, instead it's all the evil socialist Obama and his cronies fault.

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Also, as someone who lives in a state where Trump has had many business dealings, and has been inside more than one of them and seen some of the behind the scenes of it, the quoted is pretty much the long and the short of it.

The man is a modern day snake oil salesman of a sort.

I agree with on the fact that ACA is not ALL bad. The fact that now pre-existing conditions are now covered is a grand thing. What should have been written into it was the politicians had to use ACA as well.

[Felya]

I agree with on the fact that ACA is not ALL bad. The fact that now pre-existing conditions are now covered is a grand thing. What should have been written into it was the politicians had to use ACA as well.

You dont think politicians could afford supplements to even the most expensive plan on the exchange? They are not the once who had their plans subsidized nor the ones whose cost would increased to cause grief with their finances. Your solution is political theater, not substance.

Edit: Yeah, if Trump gets rid off all subsidies in healthcare, he should buy the same healthcare as all of us! That will show that billionaire...

[paralleluniverse]

Apparently insults do matter if what Trump said bothers you so much. It's only natural, I myself get offended when people call me a bigot, a troll, a phony, a snowflake etc.

I can only hope the next democratic candidate supports women/minorities properly instead of creating divisiveness like Hillary has.

Nope. Insults don't matter, as proven by the election results. And no politician has created more divisiveness or been more misogynistic than The Pussy Grabber. So I see you're both a phony and a snowflake.

[Ghostpanther]

The guy is dead right on. Good video. Thanks for sharing.

[ItachiZaku]

I bought into the anti trump rhetoric at first. And I still think he is a horrible choice. But I do not belive 100% of his supporters are a reflection of Trump. I see the ones like this guy who are struggling to make ends meet, and are crying out for jobs. Which is what Trump campaigned on.

Oddly, most of the people I know personally that voted for Trump are females. One is mexican, all of the others are under 40 white woman (most in their early 20s).

[rosebull]

But Trump won't help these people. He used them becuase they are either desperate or simply lack understanding.
He won becuase he fooled these people into thinking he was fighting for them.

Then perhaps the Democratic party shouldn't have alienated the people who got trump in power

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Then perhaps the Democratic party shouldn't have alienated the people who got trump in power

Democrats promised them a wage increase, green energy jobs, renegotiating trade deals, and cheaper education. They had plans to help these people but they didn't want to hear it. If this end up another Bush vs Kerry I am gonna laugh my ass off.

[rosebull]

"Obama is a muslim that hates Murica"
"That's a lie, you can prove tha.......
"STOP DRINKING THE KOOL AID LIBURALS"

Tell me, how do you even start a discussion with folks like that.

The first step is realizing you're referring to an extremely VOCAL minority. We can talk when that goes through your skull

Just like I dont assume all liberals are Kids crying who need a safe space for anything that hurts their feelings.

Step 1 on everyone for both sides. Get out of your self created social bubble which doesn't challenge your opinions.

[Sodia]

"Obama is a muslim that hates Murica"
"That's a lie, you can prove tha.......
"STOP DRINKING THE KOOL AID LIBURALS"

Tell me, how do you even start a discussion with folks like that.

obviously the White Privilege is talking true the right??

[rosebull]

Except time and time again that is the people we are dealing with. It's not a small minority.

Thats what the media likes to say, sure. I think you underestimate how many people are in this country if you think thats the majority. Often the case is the same with the MMO Champion and WoW Forums ( mass QQ ) when in reality most people aren't upset. The vocal minority truly is vocal as hell.

And this is for BOTH sides, not just trumpees. Also for liberals who are so off the deep-end they don't understand reality beyond their state's borders.