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  1. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    no not wrong what I quoted was in his own words an again I don't give a crap what his supporters say about it, it has nothing to do with what Obama said durp... nice side tracking though...
    So in fact you can't. You can't show equivalence between Obama and Trump on this, because there is no equivalence.

    Thanks for proving that you are wrong and I am right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  2. #402
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    So provide me those examples.

    Come on do so, or admit you are wrong on this.

    “The question I’d have when it comes to the media is how do we create a space where truth gets eyeballs and is entertaining, and we can build a common conversation?” asked President Obama. “When I leave here, one of the things I’m most concerned about is the balkanization of the media where you’ve got 800 stations and you’ve got all these websites. People have difficulty now just sorting what’s true and what’s not. If you don’t have some common baseline of facts, you know, we can have a disagreement about how to deal with climate change, but if we have a big chunk of the country that just discounts what 99 percent of scientists say completely, it’s very hard to figure out how we move the democracy forward.”

    POTUS then took aim squarely at the TV network that hates him most: Fox News. “The problem is we’ve got all these filters. Look, if I watched Fox News, I wouldn’t vote for me either because you’ve got this screen—this funhouse mirror—through which people are receiving information. How to break through that is a big challenge,” he said. “This whole conversation that’s been had lately in the aftermath of the rise of Trump, this notion that part of what’s happened is both Republican and Democratic elites have neglected the white working class, the truth of the matter is that every policy I’ve put forward would make a huge difference with the white working class—and the black working class, and the Latino working class.”

    Obama - calling out "fake news", but before the term was truly coined.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ill-maher.html

  3. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    So in fact you can't. You can't show equivalence between Obama and Trump on this, because there is no equivalence.

    Thanks for proving that you are wrong and I am right.
    Lol whatever

    but no not even close... both attacked the press both are quoted as attacking it, and what their supporters say or do has jack crap to do with it.. so you just going to keeping asking for crap that don't matter into the topic and cry I WIN lol and we can go on till the end of time....

  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by pinkz View Post
    yet media sell the so-called soft-on-immigration Obama administration
    Yes, the conservative media. The "dirty Mexicans flooding the borders to take our jobs and rape our women" narrative wouldn't have played as well as it had if conservatives weren't constantly being terrified with stories of the US's open borders.

  5. #405
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    He's calling out bias, and doing so in a largely respectful manner. How you can equate this to Trump literally calling media "The enemy of the people", I don't know. They're not even in the same damn universe.

    What Trump is doing is infinitely more aggressive, adversarial, and compared to what Obama said is actually dangerous.

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    “The question I’d have when it comes to the media is how do we create a space where truth gets eyeballs and is entertaining, and we can build a common conversation?” asked President Obama. “When I leave here, one of the things I’m most concerned about is the balkanization of the media where you’ve got 800 stations and you’ve got all these websites. People have difficulty now just sorting what’s true and what’s not. If you don’t have some common baseline of facts, you know, we can have a disagreement about how to deal with climate change, but if we have a big chunk of the country that just discounts what 99 percent of scientists say completely, it’s very hard to figure out how we move the democracy forward.”

    POTUS then took aim squarely at the TV network that hates him most: Fox News. “The problem is we’ve got all these filters. Look, if I watched Fox News, I wouldn’t vote for me either because you’ve got this screen—this funhouse mirror—through which people are receiving information. How to break through that is a big challenge,” he said. “This whole conversation that’s been had lately in the aftermath of the rise of Trump, this notion that part of what’s happened is both Republican and Democratic elites have neglected the white working class, the truth of the matter is that every policy I’ve put forward would make a huge difference with the white working class—and the black working class, and the Latino working class.”

    Obama - calling out "fake news", but before the term was truly coined.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ill-maher.html
    for some reason he wants Obama supporters touting it, and it's not about Trumps or Obama supporters it about them, so he will keep trying to derail.

  7. #407
    Considering how much Trump blatantly lies to the American people wouldn't that make him an enemy of the people by the same standards he's using?

  8. #408
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    Lately they have been wrong more often than right. Ever since the Zimmerman shooting its like they went off the rails. MSNBC even edited the police tape to make it sound racist.
    Not even close to true. They are wrong less than 1% of the time.

    Trump, OTOH.....
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

  9. #409
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    Currently Trump is doing another "i hate the media" flame-speach.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    The last thing Fox news is is fair and balanced. Its a bunch of paid wacko's spouting delusional nonsense to paranoid, senile, right wing crazies mostly living in retirement homes. It fabricates and lies all the time. Remember its stories about how Obama was going to take everyone's guns away? Remember the stories about FEMA camps? Fox news fed this garbage to people like you and you believed it. Hell you probably still believe it. I will celebrate the day Fox News shuts down due to the die off of its aging senile boomer base.

    Oh and you asked for proof, here is Fox News with its batshit crazy nonsense about FEMA camps (Make Americans paranoid again!!!! MAPA!!!!!!).

    lol You post about Glenn Beck???? Really???? He hasnt worked for Fox in like 5+ years. The only thing you can show if Glenn Beck??? There is a reason he is no longer there.....

    As for Obama taken guns away...He tried, HARD, but couldn't...

  11. #411
    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Currently Trump is doing another "i hate the media" flame-speach.
    Of course he is. The media calls him out on his mountains of bullshit.

  12. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by Bighud44 View Post
    As for Obama taken guns away...He tried, HARD, but couldn't...
    Oh? When did this happen?

  13. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by Bighud44 View Post
    lol You post about Glenn Beck???? Really???? He hasnt worked for Fox in like 5+ years. The only thing you can show if Glenn Beck??? There is a reason he is no longer there.....

    As for Obama taken guns away...He tried, HARD, but couldn't...
    Bullshit. Completely and utterly bullshit.
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

  14. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    I am sure you dont. 4chan? Sputnik? RT?



    Conservatives and the alt-right / right wing populists are different. No matter if they currently build a purpose-based coalition.



    Just shorten it: Every press outside of Trumps fan press as like foxnews is "biased towards left", from your point of view. You know, The Guardian, BBC, Der Spiegel, TAZ, Die Zeit, Le Paz, Charlie Hebdo, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.. they all report about Donalds obvious lies and therefore they have to be "Lügenpresse".



    They dont hate them. They just think they are very biased.



    I never, in my whole live, watched CNN. And Obama never was my president. As i am from germany.
    Again no proof Fox news is biased...Plenty of proof all the others are liberally biased. I dont follow any of those Alt-right sites you posted.

    Your from Germany yet think your an expert on the US's main stream media political reporting. Dont mean to be rude, but your country is proving everyday that the liberal way of governing DOESN'T work.

  15. #415
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh? When did this happen?
    Gun Companies made a killing (no pun intended) under Obama, I think sales were at record highs.

  16. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    Is this post supposed to be ironic?

    Also, if everyone is in the tank for the liberals and the left then how did the GOP win the 2016 election?
    mmmm Look at a map of who voted and that answers your question. Every run down, democrat run city and state voted for Clinton. The rest voted for Trump. Who won?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    is this post supposed to be ironic?
    Is your post supposed to be a retort to anything I stated? Guess not...Typical liberal response, arguing something off you cant dispute as "ironic"...Oh wait maybe you should have put "racist"...

  17. #417
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Who cares what you "believe"? Fact is the only thing that matters - Flynn was within his rights as the incoming NSA to speak to the Russians.
    And that's why he lied about it to Pence and the FBI, right? Because that's what you do when you're completely within your rights to do something. You let the Vice President pass false information to the American people and risk felony charges for no reason.

    EDIT: Man, I should have refreshed my page before quoting something this far back...

  18. #418
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bighud44 View Post
    Dont mean to be rude, but your country is proving everyday that the liberal way of governing DOESN'T work.
    Are we? In which context?

    Our economy works very well. Better than the years before, no matter if we let 1,5 million people in our country. We helped those people to escape war.

    Those who have no right for asylum are sent back home. As like people who were not fleeing from war and destruction, but came from safe countries just for economical purposes.

  19. #419
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    He's calling out bias, and doing so in a largely respectful manner. How you can equate this to Trump literally calling media "The enemy of the people", I don't know. They're not even in the same damn universe.

    What Trump is doing is infinitely more aggressive, adversarial, and compared to what Obama said is actually dangerous.

    ehh both have said the same things when you're that high in power and call out anyone it's dangerous but the different between them is Obama knew how to sweet talk it and sound PR and Trump kinda bunt and a bit moronic about how he says stuff.

    whole thing kinda reminds me of this Blazing saddles quote: You use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore - Taggart

  20. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by Bighud44 View Post
    mmmm Look at a map of who voted and that answers your question. Every run down, democrat run city and state voted for Clinton. The rest voted for Trump. Who won?
    This would be a valid point if Trump hadn't lost the popular vote and only won by the narrowest of margins in a lot of the states he did win.

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