KY: Men must get note from wives before purchasing Viagra.

[Dhrizzle]

To state that some one should have zero say over what happens to anothers body implies that a mother should have zero say over what happens to the fetus (which is it's own separate body).

Firstly there's the debate about when an embryo/foetus becomes a person, but even if you consider personhood to begin at conception it then becomes a clash of rights between the mother and zygote with no clear way of differentiating who's rights take priority, which is why ethically I believe the choice should be left to the mother as she is the involved party best able.to.rationalise a decision.

[Total Crica]

To state that some one should have zero say over what happens to another's body implies that a mother should have zero say over what happens to the fetus (which is it's own separate body).

Bodily autonomy is the right to govern your own body. (only you make decisions about what/who may use your body)

That is why nothing/no one can use your body without your continuous consent.

[Christonya]

Firstly there's the debate about when an embryo/foetus becomes a person, but even if you consider personhood to begin at conception it then becomes a clash of rights between the mother and zygote with no clear way of differentiating who's rights take priority, which is why ethically I believe the choice should be left to the mother as she is the involved party best able.to.rationalise a decision.

Seems to me, ethically, if you don't want kids don't go out and fuck. If you do get pregnant both consenting adults should be have to agree on if they keep it or not, and if one (the father) decides he wants the child while the mother does not, he should not be stripped of his right to be a father just because she has to house it. I can't imagine any father that wants his kid wouldn't be more then willing to take the fetus and go through pregnancy himself if biology would allow such a thing.

[Celista]

ITT:

A bunch of people who didn't read the entire article and don't realize that the author of this bill is LITERALLY trolling.

Yeah I'm pretty amazed at how few people seemed to have read it, to be honest. Wasn't expecting that.

[Total Crica]

right to be a father

No one has the right to be a parent.

That would mean I could lock you up and force my sperm into you until you give birth to my child, and even then, my sperm might be broken, ensuring my right to be a parent is not a right.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...hasing-viagra/


Clearly a response to http://newsok.com/article/5538011

This is what American politics has devolved into, political parties trolling one another.

This is hilarious, but your comment is right, its just sad.

[Christonya]

No one has the right to be a parent.

That would mean I could lock you up and force my sperm into you until you give birth to my child.

It's a good thing consensual sex and RAPE are two totally different things ain't it?

[Blobfish]

If Hillary Clinton was President and being the feminazi she was, she would probably approve this.

Thank goodness for Trumpy.

[Total Crica]

It's a good thing consensual sex and RAPE are two totally different things ain't it?

Just because you have sex with me doesn't give you the right to be a parent.

If I am infertile, there goes your right.

If I die before I give birth, there goes your right.

If I miscarry, there goes your right.

If I give birth to a stillborn, there goes your right.

If I eat a ton of food that causes me to abort, there goes your right.

If I decide to never talk to you again right after we have sex and then move to a place you can't follow me to because you can't find me, there goes your right.

[Christonya]

Just because you have sex with me doesn't give you the right to be a parent. If I am infertile, there goes your right. If I die before I give birth, there goes your right. If I miscarry, there goes your right. If I eat a ton of food that causes me to abort, there goes your right. If I decide to never talk to you again right after we have sex and then move to a place you can't follow me to because you can't find me, there goes your right.

It's a good thing we're talking about none of those, right? We're talking about an abortion.

[Total Crica]

It's a good thing we're talking about none of those, right? We're talking about an abortion.

You don't have the right to decide who can use my body. There goes your right.

You don't have the right to be a parent unless you can be a parent by using only YOUR body.

[Christonya]

You don't have the right to decide who can use my body. There goes your right.

You don't have the right to be a parent unless you can be a parent by using only YOUR body.

Alright, so no one has the right to be a parent in your eyes. You're pretty delusional.

[Total Crica]

Alright, so no one has the right to be a parent in your eyes. You're pretty delusional.

You make claims you have yet to explain let alone provide evidence for, yet I am the delusional one. Ok.

[Christonya]

You make claims you can't even explain let alone provide evidence for, yet I am the delusional one. Ok.

You don't have the right to be a parent unless you can be a parent by using only YOUR body

A woman must use a man's body to get pregnant. A man must use a woman's body to house the fetus. Having a child is symbiotic, it requires two parties, it requires two consenting adults, it requires two bodies. By your statement, no one has the right to be a parent.

[May90]

A woman must use a man's body to get pregnant. A man must use a woman's body to house the fetus. Having a child is symbiotic, it requires two parties, it requires two consenting adults, it requires two bodies. By your statement, no one has the right to be a parent.

The fact that you are a required party in some process doesn't entitle you to the result of that process. You can sign a contract in advance prescribing such entitlement, but otherwise it is purely a matter of good will between the parties.

However, you certainly get to decide what to do with your insides. Since your insides are the ones popping out the child, you are the party deciding the fate of the child. It's pretty simple.

[Total Crica]

A woman must use a man's body to get pregnant.

A woman doesn't use a man's body to get pregnant without his consent. She consents to a man to use her body for sex and she MIGHT become pregnant as a result. No one but yourself has the right to decide who can use your body. This means if a fetus is using her body, only she has the right to decide if it can continue to do so.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Acting as a parasite specifically means living on a different species, it might sound cool and edgy to refer to an embryo as a parasite but it's technically inaccurate for several reasons, not least of which is the hormonal bond the mother can develop early in the relationship.

Parasite: an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.

Doesn't actually specify that it has to be a different kind of organism from the host.

[Christonya]

A woman doesn't use a man's body to get pregnant. She allows a man to use her body for sex and she MIGHT become pregnant as a result.

Naw she uses a cucumber to get pregnant. Remember when I said delusional?

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The fact that you are a required party in some process doesn't entitle you to the result of that process. You can sign a contract in advance prescribing such entitlement, but otherwise it is purely a matter of good will between the parties.

However, you certainly get to decide what to do with your insides. Since your insides are the ones popping out the child, you are the party deciding the fate of the child. It's pretty simple.

Correct. You get to decide what you do with your insides, not the fetus or it's insides.

[jugzilla]

Killing a baby is murder, and sex is dangerous. More news at 11

[Total Crica]

Naw she uses a cucumber to get pregnant. Remember when I said delusional?

Remember when you said we were not talking about rape? She doesn't use his body without his consent.

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You get to decide what you do with your insides

You also get to decide who can use them or not. This means if a fetus is using your insides, you get to decide if they can continue to do so.