Company fires 18 employees after they participated in 'A Day Without Immigrants'

[Zoranon]

We aren't in days of service anymore, but i'm not surprised to see an american standing up for company rights before individual rights.

I see both as equals, there are trial periods and other week based terms of contracts to train and evaluate staff but after a certain number of days the employer has to know if the person is to be kept on or not. Once you have that contract it is more than fair for the employee to also get the same amount of assurances the employer demands of his personnel.

Why would you want to work for a person who sees you nothing more than a servant, an easy dismissable person. No wonder so many people in america are poor and living in fear of their loan payments when their employee can dismiss them at any time.

I really don't see how one can think to themselves "oh hey i'll never own an actual business but i might own a small one some day for that reason i must be exploited like a slave every day of the week for that feint glimmer of hope that i might one day become the exploiter"

Actually, both parties are equal in right to work states. Both can terminate the contract any time they want. Employers as well as employees.

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Employers in places with a bevy of worker protections seem to manage just fine.

Also, this is rather curious - why is a country that is purportedly so anti-tyranny totally okay with definitional tyranny if it isn't a government one?

The 20th century called and wanted its idiotic Marxist dialectics back. Its funny how you socialists are utterly incapable of learning anything.

Oh and you, who has repeatedly called for an establishment of an undemocratic regime, calling someone else tyrannical is just a sherry on top.

You are just like other far left types, the only thing you have against tyranny is that you aren't the ones in charge.

[Acidbaron]

Actually, both parties are equal in right to work states. Both can terminate the contract any time they want. Employers as well as employees.

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The 20th century called and wanted its idiotic Marxist dialectics back. Its funny how you socialists are utterly incapable of learning anything.

Oh and you, who has repeatedly called for an establishment of an undemocratic regime, calling someone else tyrannical is just a sherry on top.

You are just like other far left types, the only thing you have against tyranny is that you aren't the ones in charge.

I'm fairly certain that you can't just end your contract and need to work out your notice. In any case worker rights in the US are a joke compared to the EU but that's a long know fact and the political courage or popular vote isn't in favor of changing it.

[Kellhound]

I'm fairly certain that you can't just end your contract and need to work out your notice. In any case worker rights in the US are a joke compared to the EU but that's a long know fact and the political courage or popular vote isn't in favor of changing it.

No, I can quit at any point with no notice, and I have done so in the past.

[Zoranon]

I'm fairly certain that you can't just end your contract and need to work out your notice. In any case worker rights in the US are a joke compared to the EU but that's a long know fact and the political courage or popular vote isn't in favor of changing it.

Depends on the state and the contract, but they certainly can in some cases.

Simply put, US and European folks have a completely different view on the role of the state in private transactions.

[Flutterguy]

They earned a lesson in civil disobedience hopefully. You accept the consequences of your actions. You don't get to hold your employer hostage because you want to go to a parade.

[Noradin]

Vacation time is earned time. You don't need a reason.

You still cannot just pick a day and take it off without the go ahead from your employer and you certainly cannot just claim "we will make up for it on some sunday".

[primalmatter]

They earned a lesson in civil disobedience hopefully. You accept the consequences of your actions. You don't get to hold your employer hostage because you want to go to a parade.

I find it amusing how many people reported a positive experience from a day without immigrants. This whole thing has been watching someone shoot themselves in the foot.

[Stormdash]

We aren't in days of service anymore, but i'm not surprised to see an american standing up for company rights before individual rights.

I see both as equals, there are trial periods and other week based terms of contracts to train and evaluate staff but after a certain number of days the employer has to know if the person is to be kept on or not. Once you have that contract it is more than fair for the employee to also get the same amount of assurances the employer demands of his personnel.

Why would you want to work for a person who sees you nothing more than a servant, an easy dismissable person. No wonder so many people in america are poor and living in fear of their loan payments when their employee can dismiss them at any time.

I really don't see how one can think to themselves "oh hey i'll never own an actual business but i might own a small one some day for that reason i must be exploited like a slave every day of the week for that feint glimmer of hope that i might one day become the exploiter"

Can always tell you have the genuine article before you when they talk about "company rights" as though there aren't also human beings with their own rights on that side of the equation. In this case, the right as a business owner to dispense with employees not for their sex, race, creed, but for the voluntary choice to be useless.

[the game]

I find it amusing how many people reported a positive experience from a day without immigrants. This whole thing has been watching someone shoot themselves in the foot.

It was a positive day for this employer. They found out who to fire.

[primalmatter]

It was a positive day for this employer. They found out who to fire.

Schools to...

If only everyday was a day without immigrants.

[the game]

Schools to...

If only everyday was a day without immigrants.

agreed. It's bullshit that "Oh we were going to make up the day on a sunday when we're all getting time and a half or double time to do it."

[Pterodactylus]

At-will state, just like the right-wingers like it.

It's because republicans care about the working class.

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It was a positive day for this employer. They found out who to fire.

I am sure the cost of hiring and training 18 new employees is nothing.

[primalmatter]

It's because republicans care about the working class.

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I am sure the cost of hiring and training 18 new employees is nothing.

Considering who they fired I wouldn't think it would cost much if anything.

[Deleted]

This thread became a "noone would miss them"-echo chamber.

I believe the american economy would miss a million of low wage workers.

[Pterodactylus]

Considering who they fired I wouldn't think it would cost much if anything.

Well, they cited "the time-sensitive nature of the jobs these employees were assigned to" as a reason to fire them, so now, with 18 less employees, and the need to hire and train replacements, it makes me wonder just how time-sensitive those jobs really are.

Also, I would be curious for you to elaborate on your statement.

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agreed. It's bullshit that "Oh we were going to make up the day on a sunday when we're all getting time and a half or double time to do it."

I must have missed the part about time and a half or double time? Can you direct me to that?

[the game]

Well, they cited "the time-sensitive nature of the jobs these employees were assigned to" as a reason to fire them, so now, with 18 less employees, and the need to hire and train replacements, it makes me wonder just how time-sensitive those jobs really are.

Also, I would be curious for you to elaborate on your statement.

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I must have missed the part about time and a half or double time? Can you direct me to that?

It's not hard. Bring in temps and put them on the easy jobs that require little to no effort until they get caught up and then train them on other jobs.

[Video Games]

Why don't people understand if you work in these low wage jobs, you get a pittance of a sick pay and you don't get personal days? And most vacation time is unpaid.

[Pterodactylus]

It's not hard. Bring in temps and put them on the easy jobs that require little to no effort until they get caught up and then train them on other jobs.

Just like that! Without missing a beat, nearly instantaneous! Not a single lost second on productivity! Get real guy.

[jugzilla]

This whole argument is stupid. The Mexican restaurants in my town were packed, no one called off...because they make their money from working and they are likely legal workers. A day without immigrants....how about a decade without illegal immigrants...just walk back from were you came. If anything, maybe the %1 will decide to mow their own lawns, or pay a fair price to have someone else mow it for them. We can get by without illegal immigrants.

[stabetha]

Dude, you can get fired for getting sick or having a family emergency. They can fire you if they don't like you as a person. They can fire you for your political views. They can fire you for refusing unreasonable or dangerous work. They can fire you for wanting more pay. They can fire you for any mistake. They can fire you for not liking your haircut, rofl.

That is way too much of a power imbalance. Why do you want less rights? Less security and protection? The ability to stand up to your boss? Why do you want to be at the total mercy of someone else.

Can somebody explain to me why Americans are so adverse to civil rights? You probably also think universal health care is bad, lol.

so much fucking hyperbole in once post. Can you show one documented instance of someone being fired because the boss didn't like their haircut? And since when is not being fired a civil right.
Utter nonsense.