New Draenor Spoilers (Chronicles Vol II)

[Clone]

Except they havn't and currently aren't

they are racing towards the end.

Except you don't know that. Unless you are a part of Blizzard's inner workings, you don't know that.

[anaxie]

Except you don't know that. Unless you are a part of Blizzard's inner workings, you don't know that.

The current story supports my belief.

2 villans left

none being worked on

Burning Legion Being destroyed

Players are reveared Messiahs in the game.

You cant go much from this point. there is only one faction of enemies left and they are tightly knit. 2 are being pushed in legion for the next. when they die then its just VOID LORDS. and guess what. its either 8.3 patch or 9.0 Then It's all over.

[AmethystRockstar]

It's safe and best to assume Azeroth is the last and most important world soul of note. So frankly further WS speculation is irrelevant.

Oh the Burning Legions destruction most definetly is a huge climax don't try to spin it. You can't diminish someones destruction when they were the pinnacle since the games inception.

The game after their destruction will rapdily head towards it finale with the last 1 -2 expacs.


Bolvar is a fucking nobody he deserves to be underestimated because he cant fucking do anything and is of no significant threat to anyone.

it's never going to happen. Unless you want to worst most forced villan of all time.


in the end though you say the same stupid shit

RETURN OF THE LICH KING!!! BUT NOT THE LICH KINGS THAT ACTUALLY DID STUFF!

or Hurrr money

everything going on in the game and the writing says otherwise. get pissed of you have to


So lets get this straight

Legion destroyed
8.0 hits will kill Azshara and the last old god nzoth
9.0 hits? what then?

What then?

oh right nothing. We either go to the Void in 8.3 or in 9.0 then game over

You ramble like a damn child. I'll tell you what then. The Void Lords aren't fucking dead, you don't know that Sargeras is dead or what Bolvar is truly capable of. Nothing in writing says the game ends when the Legion is destroyed. You are truly foolish to think otherwise. I never said it wasn't a huge climax, I said it isn't THE climax (like you claimed it was). I could even argue that it is CANON that the Legion's fall ISN'T the climax bc the Grand Army of Light has not been formed yet, but you claim Sargeras falls on Argus. Well if the Grand Army of Light isn't formed to destroy Sargeras than who is it formed for? When is it formed? When is it's climactic battle? Oh right, decades from now when Anduin is an old man aboard the Exodar in some unknown part of the universe. But the game and it's story is over right?

Also idk who gave you a shlong long enough to say there are no other World Souls, or why "It's safe and best to assume Azeroth is the last and most important world soul of note"

I also am confused about how a world soul could be of any more/less importance than another.. when the goal of Void Lords is to get their hands on ANY world soul.

[Clone]

The current story supports my belief.

2 villans left

none being worked on

Burning Legion Being destroyed

Players are reveared Messiahs in the game.

You cant go much from this point. there is only one faction of enemies left and they are tightly knit. 2 are being pushed in legion for the next. when they die then its just VOID LORDS. and guess what. its either 8.3 patch or 9.0 Then It's all over.

So you have confirmation on the number of villains left and whether or not new ones are being worked on? Link source? You know for sure Burning Legion will be destroyed?

Players being revered messiahs doesn't factor into anything.

Unless you can link confirmed sources to back up your claims, you are just as clueless as you think other people are.

[Silvereyes1372]

The current story supports my belief.

2 villans left

none being worked on

Burning Legion Being destroyed

Players are reveared Messiahs in the game.

You cant go much from this point. there is only one faction of enemies left and they are tightly knit. 2 are being pushed in legion for the next. when they die then its just VOID LORDS. and guess what. its either 8.3 patch or 9.0 Then It's all over.

They can do what they want , they can even say after defeating the burning legion we'll go and do the titan work by awaking or protect the titan-planet-soul and make X new exp for each new planet we visit , with new bad guys etc..

[anaxie]

They can do what they want , they can even say after defeating the burning legion we'll go and do the titan work by awaking or protect the titan-planet-soul and make X new exp for each new planet we visit , with new bad guys etc..

Rofl let the watering down and sinking of the ship begin.

It won't happen.

Only Azeroth is important.

[Imnick]

"None being worked on" apart from how you massacre red dragons on the word of the new Lich King, Azshara, N'Zoth, and the Void Lords are more than two people, there's plenty of hints of Khadgar being part of the Legion's plans, the Zandalari still exist, Jaina's not been around for the whole expansion and we don't know what she's doing, and of course that it's trivially easy for them to use the next two expansions to set up characters for a third and fourth (just think of Garrosh).

It's not like everything that happens in three expansions' time needs to be in the game now, does it?

But nah Blizzard are just going to slaughter their prize cash cow for no reason. Totes.

[anaxie]

So you have confirmation on the number of villains left and whether or not new ones are being worked on? Link source? You know for sure Burning Legion will be destroyed?

Players being revered messiahs doesn't factor into anything.

Unless you can link confirmed sources to back up your claims, you are just as clueless as you think other people are.

Do you see villans being worked on on live?

Are there villans left alive after the Legion is destroyed?

NOPE

Two villans are left and being HEAVILY pushed in Legion for the next expansion. You know both their names by now.

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"None being worked on" apart from how you massacre red dragons on the word of the new Lich King, Azshara, N'Zoth, and the Void Lords are more than two people, there's plenty of hints of Khadgar being part of the Legion's plans, the Zandalari still exist, Jaina's not been around for the whole expansion and we don't know what she's doing, and of course that it's trivially easy for them to use the next two expansions to set up a third and fourth (just think of Garrosh).

But nah Blizzard are just going to slaughter their prize cash cow for no reason. Totes.

killing the reds is OPTIONAL and thus not canon that you did it that way.

Secondly PLAYER Deathknights are all Bolvar has and frnakly Bolvar is not even worth notice compared to Arthas.

YOu guys build Bolvar up on this pedestal for the Actions that ARTHAS and Ner'zhul performed.

Bolvar is a fucking nobody. he will not be a villan and hes not stupid enough to become a villan because of how quickly he would be destroyed.

I'm sorry are they WORKING on a Garrosh right now?

Nooo

Bolvar has no cult of the damned no command strucutre just player DKs
jaina can't do a fucking thing considering she doesnt command any faction or have ANY influence in the Kirin Tor anymore
Zandalarie and Zul are an obvious choice for the non tier intro considering proximity but expansion? lol no.

Khadgar is not hinted as part of legions Plans what are you going on about? you aren't very good with hints.

[Kazlofski]

Just give up guys, person is in denial.
They made the sha easily, more importantly they made Lei-Shen out of nowhere and it was an awesome idea, they will easily make more of those.
If need be, they can make Medivh reappear/retcon death whichever is more correct.
They can make an expac about exploring Azeroth with stuff related to titan origin and lore to say find a way to unlock Azeroth's power and awaken it to be a titan before it gets corrupted or just reinforce it's self defenses against such corruption.

Now on topic, is there anything about the apexis yet? Only something about ogres and plague? Is there a lot to read about this or do we need to wait for release and it's not in the preview?

[AmethystRockstar]

Do you see villans being worked on on live?

Are there villans left alive after the Legion is destroyed?

NOPE

Two villans are left and being HEAVILY pushed in Legion for the next expansion. You know both their names by now.

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killing the reds is OPTIONAL and thus not canon that you did it that way.

Secondly PLAYER Deathknights are all Bolvar has and frnakly Bolvar is not even worth notice compared to Arthas.

YOu guys build Bolvar up on this pedestal for the Actions that ARTHAS and Ner'zhul performed.

Bolvar is a fucking nobody. he will not be a villan and hes not stupid enough to become a villan because of how quickly he would be destroyed.

Except for that Bolvar is in command of the entire scourge, is capable of raising infinite numbers to fight for the scourge, is currently looking for the remains of a giant, ancient dragon, could be in contact with Old God's or Ner'zhul or a million other things that can and will make him a huge player in the lore. You really are just as pretentious as can be.

[Imnick]

The ghost of Arthas has told you that Bolvar is a bad dude since the start of the expansion. Bolvar's told player DKs to invade and attack two allied factions. Bolvar has been the Lich King now for as long as Arthas was himself, and experienced roughly the same period of torpor before becoming active in the world again. They keep repeatedly placing dialogue that questions how much the Ebon Blade are under their own control and how much they are being influenced by Bolvar. Bolvar was a beloved, iconic, and important Alliance character before he was incinerated and became the Lich King.
But nah, Blizzard's just writing all this stuff for no reason. Only the story Anaxie thinks is relevant counts.

[AmethystRockstar]

Just give up guys, person is in denial.
They made the sha easily, more importantly they made Lei-Shen out of nowhere and it was an awesome idea, they will easily make more of those.
If need be, they can make Medivh reappear/retcon death whichever is more correct.

Now on topic, is there anything about the apexis yet? Only something about ogres and plague? Is there a lot to read about this or do we need to wait for release and it's not in the preview?

Ah, another good point. Medivh is confirmed still alive, and tells Khadgar that he is the new Guardian. But only for this xpac bc wow is dead amirite?

[anaxie]

Just give up guys, person is in denial.
They made the sha easily, more importantly they made Lei-Shen out of nowhere and it was an awesome idea, they will easily make more of those.
If need be, they can make Medivh reappear/retcon death whichever is more correct.

Now on topic, is there anything about the apexis yet? Only something about ogres and plague? Is there a lot to read about this or do we need to wait for release and it's not in the preview?

The Sha was a product of the 4th old god.

Are you even educated?

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Ah, another good point. Medivh is confirmed still alive, and tells Khadgar that he is the new Guardian. But only for this xpac bc wow is dead amirite?

What is so bad about a story coming to a conclusion? You all wouldhave to watered down to shit shovelware Call of Duty level. You guys are the ones in denial and messed up.

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The ghost of Arthas has told you that Bolvar is a bad dude since the start of the expansion. Bolvar's told player DKs to invade and attack two allied factions. Bolvar has been the Lich King now for as long as Arthas was himself, and experienced roughly the same period of torpor before becoming active in the world again. They keep repeatedly placing dialogue that questions how much the Ebon Blade are under their own control and how much they are being influenced by Bolvar. Bolvar was a beloved, iconic, and important Alliance character before he was incinerated and became the Lich King.
But nah, Blizzard's just writing all this stuff for no reason. Only the story Anaxie thinks is relevant counts.

WELCOME TO WARCRAFT

have you ever heard of morally grey characters

OH NO Death Kngihts ARENT about sugar and rainbows. as if the name wasn't a hint enough. like fucking seriously.

[Imnick]

What is so bad about a story coming to a conclusion? You all wouldhave to watered down to shit shovelware Call of Duty level. You guys are the ones in denial and messed up.

There's nothing bad about it, but it's not how MMOs work.
This isn't a game with a beginning and ending, it's an episodic serial. That's the MMO model.
I'm not saying it won't become watered down, it's quite likely. I like this expansion a lot but just the last one had terrible macro-level writing.

That doesn't mean you're not in denial if you think they'd ever stop making more WoW when they could turn a profit by doing so.

[AmethystRockstar]

BOLVAR HAS THE FUCKING HELM OF DOMINATION JESUS CHRIST

The Lich King has never been defined by Frostmourne or the physical avatar it inhabits. The Lich King IS the Helm, the Helm gives physic capability on a scale only comparable to an Old God as well as complete control over the dead.

Bolvar has the Helm. Bolvar is a threat. Just like anyone else who wears that Helm. There must always be a Lich King, the Lich King will always be a threat. Welcome to the Warcraft Universe. A universe like any other, one that doesn't and cannot end.

[anaxie]

Except for that Bolvar is in command of the entire scourge, is capable of raising infinite numbers to fight for the scourge, is currently looking for the remains of a giant, ancient dragon, could be in contact with Old God's or Ner'zhul or a million other things that can and will make him a huge player in the lore. You really are just as pretentious as can be.

and no cult of the Damned command struture.

WHich was the entire backbone of the Scourge War Machine.

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There's nothing bad about it, but it's not how MMOs work.
This isn't a game with a beginning and ending, it's an episodic serial. That's the MMO model.
I'm not saying it won't become watered down, it's quite likely. I like this expansion a lot but just the last one had terrible macro-level writing.

That doesn't mean you're not in denial if you think they'd ever stop making more WoW when they could turn a profit by doing so.

Warcraft and its story doesn't work the same as other MMOs.

You see thats the problem with other MMOs. No vision or eventually endgame.

WoW has a clearly defined one.

[Imnick]

You see thats the problem with other MMOs. No vision or eventually endgame.
WoW has a clearly defined one.

That's honestly the funniest thing you've said in this topic.
If you think Blizzard have had a plan for their writing that stretched from Vanilla up until now, with a timeline of two more expansions and then an ending, well... that just shows how useful your insight here is :P

Then again you also think that the only possible villains that could exist in four to five years are ones that already exist and have been foreshadowed in this expansion for some reason so it's not like it's that illuminating.

[Clone]

Do you see villans being worked on on live?

Shallow reason. When WotLK hit Malygos became a villain without being worked on. In cata a new goblin cartel became playable without being worked on. Archbishop Benedictus became a villain without being worked on. Do I need to go on?

Are there villans left alive after the Legion is destroyed?

NOPE

Again, you don't know that. Either link confirmation or drop this nonsense.

Two villans are left and being HEAVILY pushed in Legion for the next expansion. You know both their names by now.

I don't give a fuck.

If you think Blizzard won't drop more expansions because of lolstory then you haven't been paying attention to how they operate since WC3.

[anaxie]

BOLVAR HAS THE FUCKING HELM OF DOMINATION JESUS CHRIST

The Lich King has never been defined by Frostmourne or the physical avatar it inhabits. The Lich King IS the Helm, the Helm gives physic capability on a scale only comparable to an Old God as well as complete control over the dead.

Bolvar has the Helm. Bolvar is a threat. Just like anyone else who wears that Helm. There must always be a Lich King, the Lich King will always be a threat. Welcome to the Warcraft Universe. A universe like any other, one that doesn't and cannot end.

Bolvar is a fucking nobody and would die FAST if he made an offensive against the armies of Azeroth. Your fanfiction shit wont happen.

We wont go visit northrend for an expansion in the same zones ALL AGAIn just to raid ICC AGAIN and kill Bolvar and all our DeathKihgt Guildmates.


It won't happen.

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Shallow reason. When WotLK hit Malygos became a villain without being worked on. In cata a new goblin cartel became playable without being worked on. Archbishop Benedictus became a villain without being worked on. Do I need to go on?

Again, you don't know that. Either link confirmation or drop this nonsense.

I don't give a fuck.

If you think Blizzard won't drop more expansions because of lolstory then you haven't been paying attention to how they operate since WC3.

What you mean using nothing but iconic locations and Villans established prior to WoW to drive 90% of the story Forward?

Benedictus had a Novel before he went bad btw. and he helped bring Alternate Blackmoore to torture thrall through the timeways in his search for Nozdormu.

Malygos was iconic and already existed. I don't think you are capable of understanding the topic.

[Imnick]

You heard it here first guys, Bolvar's a nobody but Archbishop Benedictus was an iconic villain.